Foreigners (legally) working and living in Atlanta - your thoughts (immigrants, families)

[BringBackCobain]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

I AM NOT A COMMUNIST - so let me get that out of the way up front; however, there is a difference between a political party and an economic philosophy. Totalitarianism is what killed many scores of people, not an economic philosophy. Perhaps one begats the other, but let's don't infer that socialist policies necessarily lead to a regime that kills its citizenry.

Communism, in the technical sense, is an economic philosophy. However, history shows that it can only be implemented and maintained through totalitarianism.

Can communism be implemented without bloodshed? There is a theory, first espoused by the Frankfurt School, that it can be, albeit gradually, by means of a "long march through the institutions" by cultural marxists.

We are living in an interesting time. The West's dabbling in socialism is bringing about its destruction, as we are seeing in quasi-socialist Europe. The only options that remain are full implementation of socialism (i.e. communism) or a full dismantling of socialist policies. It is my belief (and hope) that Europe will choose the former, while America will choose the latter.

[AcidSnake]

Uh oh, loaded question. You gotta be extra careful with those. You're playing with dynamite here.

Originally Posted by muxBuppie

That all blacks are monkeys and criminals. Is that the answer you wanted?

[Stars&StripesForever]

Originally Posted by captaincatfish

First of all, I thank god that my parents raised me in such a way that I am able to deal with stuff like this and not blow a gasket...

I am terribly sorry if you have a low opinion of blacks or other non-whites, media-influenced or not, legal or illegal...those 'foreigners' who have done the deal right and are living and working in this country LEGALLY (as the thread title states) will get no beef from this black man, at all...

Secondly, be advised that when my head hits my pillow at night, I am thankful that your or anyone else's 'not liking me because it appears people who are around blacks every day dislike them as much as people whose opinon of them is based on media portrayals' (did I get that right?) has no influence on my life or that of my wife and family whatsoever...since you don't appear to be in any type of position of authority that can directly influence my day-to-day life, and are only barking and selling wolf tickets on a chat forum, then you and others can 'dislike' me all you want, and it frankly won't amount to a pimple on a duck's tush to me

In closing, I am equally apologetic that you and others here seem to break out in hives at the mention of anyone in your area who isn't white and not living their life according to some pre-determined set of 'rules', but to that I say, get over yourselves already...as long as we (the 'scawwy peoples') are living and working and generally not being a public nuisance, other than the fact that we may not be of the 'right pigmentation/nationality', then sorry for your luck...as I've stated here on City Data more times than I care to count, you don't get to tell me and anyone else where to live, how to vote, what color siding we can have, what breed of dog we are allowed to buy, or anything else of importance...you are a poster on a chat forum, same as myself, and your evident distastes don't translate into any form of authority over anyone, as much as you'd love to click your ruby slippers and chant 'go away...go away...go away...'

Those foreigners living not only there in Atlanta, but here in my neck of the woods in SW Ohio, shouldn't be a problem to anyone, especially if they are (as the thread title implied, once again) living and working here legally, are being good citizens, and are contributing to the local economy with their presence...bottom line

Oh come on, the Cincinnati-Dayton area's demographics looks like metro Atlanta 1983. People in Atlanta talked like you back then. There's a difference with hypothetical thinking and actually living around those "hypotheticals".

[muxBuppie]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

Oh come on, the Cincinnati-Dayton area's demographics looks like metro Atlanta 1983. People in Atlanta talked like you back then. There's a difference with hypothetical thinking and actually living around those "hypotheticals".

So how do you feel about black people SSF?

[dreamingofsunshine123]

we dun like them ozzies blokes takin our jobs, stealin our white women, and plain old dirtying up the place...

jk. no but seriously, i think you'll be just fine. Atlanta is uber diverse and everyone is welcome, so come and lets all hug it out

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by roadtrip75

Wrong.

We have all that. Corporations, however, prefer H1B workers who work at lower wages, put in longer hours, and have fewer options when it comes to changing jobs.

Originally Posted by AcidSnake

I have to disagree with that assertion. Not that I particularly like the concept of siding with ol' Zeke from the Sons of the Confederacy but that person does have a good point. We have the infrastructure here and we are graduating plenty of American born computer programmers. These companies are not looking for them, plain and simple.

Also, there was a lot of news coverage on the issue of the H-1B visa became of some major fraud that was going on 2 or so years ago. Here is one of the interviews talking about the H-1B controversy, and it's very enlightening.


Americas future heading for China & India - YouTube

No we really aren't graduating "computer programmers". Computer science curriculum in this country revolves around theory not a specific programming language. Technical and trade school IT curriculum revolves around things like repair or training technicians. THOSE trades we have no shortage of. What India and China have are programs where the students go in and learn just Java or C++ or whatever other language. There is a big difference between the two.

[Suzy Q Yankee]

Is there really as much racism against immigrants in the Atlanta area as it seems in this forum?

Should I be afraid to move? I don't want my children to be treated poorly because they aren't white. We have a blended Peruvian/American family. I thought the area was diverse!

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by Suzy Q Yankee

Is there really as much racism against immigrants in the Atlanta area as it seems in this forum?

Should I be afraid to move? I don't want my children to be treated poorly because they aren't white. We have a blended Peruvian/American family. I thought the area was diverse!

No, do not use this forum as any indicator of reality. There are hundreds of thousands of immigrants and their families in this city and they are far from being made to feel unwelcome because of it.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by Suzy Q Yankee

Is there really as much racism against immigrants in the Atlanta area as it seems in this forum?

Should I be afraid to move? I don't want my children to be treated poorly because they aren't white. We have a blended Peruvian/American family. I thought the area was diverse!

No to all of your questions.

[AcidSnake]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

No we really aren't graduating "computer programmers". Computer science curriculum in this country revolves around theory not a specific programming language.

You clearly didn't look at the video, and that is precisely why I picked it.

Sona Shah the subject matter of this video was a computer programmer who has been out of work for some time. So at some point, an employer had decided that her services were no longer needed. Guess I don't need to wonder why that is...

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Technical and trade school IT curriculum revolves around things like repair or training technicians. THOSE trades we have no shortage of.

We have no shortage of personnel you mean. Jobs however, is a different story. Which is why I jumped on this thread with my commentary to begin with.

Originally Posted by waronxmas

What India and China have are programs where the students go in and learn just Java or C++ or whatever other language. There is a big difference between the two.

Again, that is exactly why I picked this particular Youtube video to begin with, which shows that I fully acknowledged your previous statement on the issue of computer programmer vs. IT technician. Did you even look at it before posting this latest statement of yours?