08-06-2006, 08:46 AM
Location: NE Florida
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I just found this forum. There is allot of great information.
There is a chance( lol I say chance so I won't jinx it) that we may be relocating from NE FL to Atlanta in the next 6 to 9 months.
From the research I have done the biggest issue is traffic. Originally from the NJ area I am thinking "Garden State Parkway heading south on a Friday in the summer". those of you from NJ may be able to let me know if this is how bad the traffic is.
DH has said he would have no problems with a 20 to 30 min drive to a MARTA station. then take MARTA downtown to where he could be working. It is difficult enough moving to a new area without having a stressed out DH every evening. The problem is it is hard to tell what the nice areas are and what the realistic distance is from looking at the MARTA map.
We are looking for a nice area $250 to $300k.range. I would like some land minimum .5 acre to lets say 1.5. the ability to fence is a must.
We have no children(unless you consider our 3 dogs)so schools aren't a real issue
Some of the areas I have been checking out online are
Powder Springs
Dallas
Hiram
Those seem to have nice size lots with nice looking houses
also
Marietta
Alpheretta
Any suggestions or information about these areas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Karla
08-06-2006, 09:48 PM
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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Well, I live in the Powder Springs area. True, there are still some older homes here with larger lots (ours is about 1 acre). The newer subdivisions that are popping up EVERYWHERE in the Powder Springs and Hiram area however, do not typcially have larger lots (most of them are at most, 1/4 acre to MAYBE 1/2 acre for the nicer ones).
Here is your problem - MARTA does not come to Cobb or Paulding County at ALL (Powder Springs and Marietta are in Cobb, Hiram/Dallas in Paudling). None. Zippo. Cobb County has its own very limited bus system (CCT), but it does not even run out to Powder Springs at all. They did start once single "express" route that connects to MARTA and it's very popular, but they're always changing/altering routes so I would not personally make a move based on that.
I've brought up Atlanta's "race tensions" before so I won't beat it to death here now, but to sum it up, when the MARTA rail system was built in the 70s, Cobb and Gwinnett dropped out of the 1-cent tax system to pay for it, so the rail was not extended into those counties. Every so often through the years they'll let voters vote on whether they will allow it to come out and they always vote "no". The basics - Atlanta is very urban, higher crime, and has a lot of "ghetto" areas. The burbs are in many areas upper-middle yuppie and very white. If you get a native suburbanite drunk enough they'll usually slip up and actually say something like, "we don't want THOSE PEOPLE from downtown to be able to get out here easily, if ya know what I mean... wink wink". Yeppers... it's the South. Enough said. Our last governor created a regional transit agency that had the power to override local governments (as in, had the power to say, "tough crap, we're building it there anyway!"), but the current governor does not put public transit as a high priority, that agency has had budget cuts, and they are powerless to do much except put in an express bus route now and then.
So you would be stuck with about a 20-25 minute ride along I-20 eastbound in order to get to the furthest most MARTA station going west (W5 Hamilton E. Holmes station). Problem is, the West line is the WORST line in terms of rough charactors riding it, as it passes through a few housing projects type of areas. Of all the lines N/S/E/W, the West line isn't the land of Oz. The Holmes station is one of the higher crime stations as well (car break-ins in the parking lot, a few muggings now and then, etc). The short of it is that unless you want to chance that one express route out of Powder Springs, you really don't have any public transit options out here on this side of town.
Explore the North, and Northeast MARTA lines. You do have higher congestion/traffic in those areas, but they're lower crime than the others, and you could still find a decent place within a 20-30 minute drive of a MARTA station there, too. The Eastern areas used to be nicer, but I've known two people who have lived in the Stone Mountain area who have recently moved out, saying crime is on a big upswing around there.
08-07-2006, 04:56 AM
Location: NE Florida
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Thanks Altlantagreg
that is very helpful information. We are going to cross that option of using that marta station off our list. What would you estimate the drive time from PS to downtown? My husband keeps saying he won't mind doing some driving if it means he can come home to a nice house on a larger lot. He enjoys doing wood working and would love to eventually have a workshop built. I know allot of the new subdivisions would not allow an out-building. Thats why we were looking for around 1 acre or so.
Thanks
Karla
08-07-2006, 06:33 AM
Location: ga
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I will pick Doraville or North Springs station. Pick 20 minutes to the north up from that.
Suwanee, Duluth, Alpharatta, Roswell, west side of Norcross are best bet.
08-07-2006, 08:46 AM
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thanks jxu66
I took a look at some of the hosues in those areas and saw quite a few that I liked.
Quite a few had basements and large lots. I think we are going to really consider these areas.
I can't believe what you get for the money in the Atlanta area.
Karla
08-07-2006, 02:21 PM
Location: Roswell, GA
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Hi Karla,
I responded to your PM before looking at the forum. Most of the questions I asked you in my reply about what you are looking for are here in your postings. So ignore my message.
I agree with jxu66 about those places to live if you want to be near a Marta station, but bear in mind that Marta does not run like NJ Transit or the NYC subway system. Driving 20 monutes to a station and then waiting for a train could make for a longer commute than sitting in traffic would. In addition to what jxu66 suggested, look at Dunwoody and Sandy Springs too. Very close to Marta and very Jersey-like in the housing choices.
Oh, and yes, the rush hour traffic is the same or worse than Friday night benny traffic.
But you can avoid it by going to work super early.
If he's willing to drive to work, look into Kennesaw, Acworth, and Woodstock. They are still in growth-mode, so you can get a lot for your money. It would probably be about a 30-45 minute commute into Atlanta (depending on what time he leaves for work).
Good luck!
08-07-2006, 05:13 PM
Location: NE Florida
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hey jenny
I just sent you a pm
thanks
Karla
08-07-2006, 09:06 PM
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by myfask
Thanks Altlantagreg
What would you estimate the drive time from PS to downtown? My husband keeps saying he won't mind doing some driving if it means he can come home to a nice house on a larger lot. He enjoys doing wood working and would love to eventually have a workshop built. I know allot of the new subdivisions would not allow an out-building. Thats why we were looking for around 1 acre or so.
Thanks
Karla
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On a "good day", you can get to downtown Atlanta from Powder Springs in around 40 minutes. Note this is Atlanta.. the "L.A. of the East Coast" in terms of traffic. During rush hours (6:30am-9am and 3:30pm-6:30pm or so), any "good times" people give you... double them, or more if there are accidents. Not all doom and gloom, there still ARE a few good traffic days here, but they're not nearly as numerous as they were just a few years ago.
Note that the city of Powder Springs tends to change and alter their codes quite a bit, sometimes bordering on the insane. If you want to guarantee an outside "shop" type building, buy the house around but not *IN* the city limits of Powder Springs. Not long ago and I think it's still in effect, that any type of outbuilding had to be
35 feet from the back property line of your neighbors. Might was well attach it to the house! lol
Try to get a basement. While tornados are not an everyday thing, and ours tend to be smaller (F0 to F1 mostly), we do get them in the Spring, and a finished basement makes a nice safety area for that kind of thing.
I really do suggest to people that they RENT something for just 3 months if possible if they move here first, though. Rent it in the area you currently THINK you want to live in. Spend that time driving around, learning the major and minor roads of that area. You may find you love it there and can then go on your search to buy a local home... but you may also find traffic or other issues are a complete turn-off and decide to move further out or in, too.
08-08-2006, 05:17 AM
Location: NE Florida
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thanks atlantagreg
you have given me allot to think about
renting is not an option we have 3 dogs and I don't think i can convince my husband to move twice. lol
once we know what is going on I plan on a week long visit. that way we can go to the areas we like and "drive" the morning rush
Karla
08-08-2006, 12:39 PM
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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I wish I was ready to move now... I'd sell you MY house! LOL!
I moved to Powder Springs 11 years ago to "get away from it all", but development is catching up to this area and I want to move further out. But as far as house/lot goes, it would be perfect for you - 3BR/3BA ranch, older home, sits on a perfectly flat 1 acre lot with 1/2 acre of it fenced back yard.. etc. I also have three dogs; indoor large mutts but go out and use the yard a lot. Great for kids and pets. Too bad this isn't a couple of years from now 'cause we could have maybe worked something out. Timing sucks.
My neighbor is selling her house, though. 3BR and one room downstairs. Promise me you don't have a ton of screaming kids and you don't leave your dogs outside to bark all night, and I'll tell you more about it. LOL
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Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)