Has the Atlanta Area Peaked?

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by cityfilms

Similarly, New Orleans never did and never will return to it's peak 100 years ago until that entitlement population disapears.

I can't think of another event like Katrina that effectively depopulated a large US city and then had to repopulate again after the devastation.

Hopefully, through more natural disasters, and a massive economic disaster will things correct and people finally figure out (the hard way hopefully) not to have babies. There will be no welfare by the end of the decade. There's going to be a major correction going on the next 20 years in american society.

Actually, it's the lack of babies that is the problem for Europe and Japan. Fertility rates have been dropping and that spells trouble for a society.

[muxBuppie]

We don't need it be kids born on welfare. That is not how you want to grow the population.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by muxBuppie

We don't need to be kids born on welfare. That is not how you want to grow the population.

Well...we need to at least sustain it in order to have enough people to support the older generation. And people have achieved wealth even from inauspicious starts.

[muxBuppie]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Well...we need to at least sustain it in order to have enough people to support the older generation. And people have achieved wealth even from inauspicious starts.

We don't want to encourage people who can't afford kids to have them just because "they may strike it rich". If that strategy works there are few third world countries that should be doing very well.

[cityKING28]

I think Atlanta is a city that continues to reinvent itself. The reason why so many rust belt cities fell into decline is because in many cases the entire city depended on one industry, and when that industry failed the city declined as well. This is not the case in Atlanta. As long as the city doesnt become a "one trick pony" it will continue to grow and prosper.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Well...we need to at least sustain it in order to have enough people to support the older generation.

That assumes the new births will grow up to be working and contributing to society. What if they're taking out rather than putting in?

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

But altitude is not what is important. The mountain's or hill's rise from base to peak is what matters unless of course people crave the thinner air. But regardless, if you want hills and you live in Dallas, head for the Ozarks. And if you want serious mountains, even Georgia and the entire Appalachians won't do. I've also lived in the Alpine region of Europe.

I already said Atlanta is not Seattle there's no ice caps, you didn't even have to mention the Alps in Europe, but you already set the standard with the Ozarks.

My point was the Ozarks are no more or no less hillier then Metro Atlanta itself. You said Atlantans have to travel to the Carolinas, As if Metro Atlanta and north Georgia isn't mountainous enough but you brought up the Ozarks? then OK and AR?

Also you said Stone Mountain is a feature most places should envy but Atlanta's center is so far away from it. "even thought it's not the largest peak in metro Atlanta and it's just in Dekalb" but you said if you want hills and you live in Dallas, head for the Ozarks?

If were using the Ozarks a as standard, from Dallas it's 250 to 300 milies away. Atlanta to Ozarks size mountains you have a dozen in less than a 30 miles radius with in the Atlanta metro. Both More and larger mountains in less than 100 sq miles radius in North Georgia. You can't compare Dallas access to Hills and Mountains to Atlanta at all. It depends where you at in metro Atlanta but any way it goes it's commuting distances, you can go "oh I want to go to the mountains" at random if you live in Atlanta. You can't do that in Dallas, Dallas to the Ozarks is 4 to 5 hours you might want to find a hotel you seriously have to plan at trip date and everything.

Barrow, Bartow, Carroll, Cherokee, Dawson, Douglas, Forsyth, Gwinnett, Hall and Paulding counties of Metro Atlanta are consider Appalachia, by the appalachian regional commission.

Counties in Appalachia - Appalachian Regional Commission

Metro Atlanta, Cobb, Bartow and Cherokee Counties.

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[testa50]

Are we actually comparing the quality of mountains around Dallas with those around Atlanta? Aren't all those Oklahoma peaks in the panhandle, like 500 miles from Dallas?

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

I already said Atlanta is not Seattle there's no ice caps, you didn't even have to mention the Alps in Europe, but you already set the standard with the Ozarks.

My point was the Ozarks are no more or no less hillier then Metro Atlanta itself. You said Atlantans have to travel to the Carolinas, As if Metro Atlanta and north Georgia isn't mountainous enough but you brought up the Ozarks? then OK and AR?

Also you said Stone Mountain is a feature most places should envy but Atlanta's center is so far away from it. "even thought it's not the largest peak in metro Atlanta and it's just in Dekalb" but you said if you want hills and you live in Dallas, head for the Ozarks?

If were using the Ozarks a as standard, from Dallas it's 250 to 300 milies away. Atlanta to Ozarks size mountains you have a dozen in less than a 30 miles radius with in the Atlanta metro. Both More and larger mountains in less than 100 sq miles radius in North Georgia. You can't compare Dallas access to Hills and Mountains to Atlanta at all. It depends where you at in metro Atlanta but any way it goes it's commuting distances, you can go "oh I want to go to the mountains" at random if you live in Atlanta. You can't do that in Dallas, Dallas to the Ozarks is 4 to 5 hours you might want to find a hotel you seriously have to plan at trip date and everything.

I actually agree that the Dallas isn't close to anything like the Appalachians, but to correct you on a few points: the Ozarks aren't the closest mountains to Dallas; the Ouachitas (of southeastern Oklahoma and Arkansas) are. They are generally more dramatic in appearance, and are only a 2 to 3 hour road trip from DFW.

To me, the Interior Highlands are like tall hills, and the Appalachians are like very tall hills. And if Dallasites really want to see mountains, they most likely won't bother with either; instead, they're going to take that short flight west, up into the Rockies of Colorado.