Atlanta vs Charlotte for 'King of the South' (Nashville, Washington: buying, subdivisions)

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by Peachcity

It's is not about being taxed as much as the city having enough money to improve quality of life. People of all stripes in high tax places with good transit ride transit, unlike here in Atlanta with it only being poor people. Many stories on city-data about people moving here because it is cheap and then hating it because they are getting what they pay for. It is the mentality of populous also.

People here are cheap so they will never use fund from taxes to increase safety in dense area or transit options. The talented people from places that care about quality of life will realize this and head back. They already are. Look at how many companies wont come here due to back quality of life.

Uh...a lot of companies are coming to Atlanta. We can't win the fight to get all of them. Chiquita which recently announced their move from Cincinnati to Charlotte was in New York before that. They could have gone back to New York to enjoy all those services, but they didn't.

Is there some "the way for Atlanta to grow is to raise taxes...smart people love higher taxes" agenda going on here?

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Is there some "the way for Atlanta to grow is to raise taxes...smart people love higher taxes" agenda going on here?

Interesting question.

I think there often (on this forum and elsewhere) tends to be this undertone of "I'm enlightened and educated and know what's best for others. I also don't mind paying taxes because I'm a solid citizen and our taxes provide benefits for all."

The corollary to that statement is "those other people who push back on taxes are ignorant and selfish, and they don't care about others."

Of course neither is true.

[mike7586]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Uh...a lot of companies are coming to Atlanta. We can't win the fight to get all of them. Chiquita which recently announced their move from Cincinnati to Charlotte was in New York before that. They could have gone back to New York to enjoy all those services, but they didn't.

Is there some "the way for Atlanta to grow is to raise taxes...smart people love higher taxes" agenda going on here?

I think the people advocating for "higher taxes" are thinking about the substandard schools in GA and lack of investment in infrastructure around metro Atlanta (compared to the amount of growth over the last 10 years)...

Now I don't know if throwing more money at schools is going to solve the issue... however a 1 cent additional sales tax to improve roads and transit around metro Atlanta is not going to break the bank nor is it going to deter people or companies from moving here. The positives (road/transit improvements) far outweigh the negatives (higher sales tax... it's a penny). There are some taxes worth paying for.

[brent6969]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Uh...a lot of companies are coming to Atlanta. We can't win the fight to get all of them. Chiquita which recently announced their move from Cincinnati to Charlotte was in New York before that. They could have gone back to New York to enjoy all those services, but they didn't.

Is there some "the way for Atlanta to grow is to raise taxes...smart people love higher taxes" agenda going on here?

Chiquita will realize their mistake when they move to C. Atlanta has a much more significant international presence than C, not even remotely on the same level.

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by joep2

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Charlotte obviously has what Chiquita needs. What does Chiquita need from Atlanta that Charlotte doesn't have?

A Brazilian Consulate.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by johnatl

A Brazilian Consulate.

They don't need one for Chiquita

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by brent6969

Chiquita will realize their mistake when they move to C. Atlanta has a much more significant international presence than C, not even remotely on the same level.

I'm pretty sure they thought this all out beforehand. They considered and dropped Atlanta.

[Peachcity]

Originally Posted by neil0311

As someone who moved from the northeast, of course taxes are a factor in a decision to leave somewhere like CA or the northeast. Often taxes are a large part of what makes owning a home unaffordable. When your property tax bill is $12,000/year, that's an additional $1,000/mo tacked on to your mortgage. When the schools and the roads, and the other services being provided for that tax money are sub-standard, that leads to people picking up and leaving.

Not sure how you could make that statement.

People who can't make it among the smart or insist on having a big ol SUV and home. High tax places are for the smart and best.

[brent6969]

Originally Posted by joep2

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Charlotte obviously has what Chiquita needs. What does Chiquita need from Atlanta that Charlotte doesn't have?

Much bigger international airport with many more direct flights worldwide.

[architect77]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Interesting question.

I think there often (on this forum and elsewhere) tends to be this undertone of "I'm enlightened and educated and know what's best for others. I also don't mind paying taxes because I'm a solid citizen and our taxes provide benefits for all."

The corollary to that statement is "those other people who push back on taxes are ignorant and selfish, and they don't care about others."

Of course neither is true.

Here's why the anti-tax sentiment in Georgia is ridiculous:

Georgia's taxes across the board have always been too low for a state that's the 8th most populous.

The gas tax is the 2nd lowest in the country. It's less than all the less-populated states surrounding it.

Only people in NY, NJ, or taxachusetts should be so anti-tax as y'all are. Georgia first needs to raise enough revenue and then invest enough in the state itself to get up to the level of typical "contender" states like Florida and North Carolina. Only after all of this is done should you be so against paying to live in a great state.