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Old 07-05-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Sandy Springs, GA
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You don't want a wal-mart there. Nothing against wal-mart itself, but they bring in a butt-ton of traffic and waste gobs of space on parking lots.

I have also never visited a wal-mart that wasn't ridiculously crowded or junky (sometimes both, never neither).

As others have pointed out, all of the roads in the area are jam packed. There is a target there already, and another walmart not 6 minutes away. A better location would probably be the shopping center with the ToysRUs and Ulta due north of there just off of exit 1 of GA-400 (close to Phipps plaza). A walmart in that location could serve Brookhaven and Glenridge folks?
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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You don't want a wal-mart there. Nothing against wal-mart itself, but they bring in a butt-ton of traffic and waste gobs of space on parking lots.

I have also never visited a wal-mart that wasn't ridiculously crowded or junky (sometimes both, never neither).

As others have pointed out, all of the roads in the area are jam packed. There is a target there already, and another walmart not 6 minutes away. A better location would probably be the shopping center with the ToysRUs and Ulta due north of there just off of exit 1 of GA-400 (close to Phipps plaza). A walmart in that location could serve Brookhaven and Glenridge folks?
Walmart is entirely capable of doing urban stores, such as this one going up in D.C.

There's no reason whatsoever they couldn't do that here.

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Old 07-05-2012, 09:52 PM
 
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With a Target being right across the street, does there really need to be a store that's basically exactly the same in all but name there too? Also you know there's a Walmart right at four miles away right?
I'm within walking distance of a Target...and I would have no problem with a Walmart across the street too. Similar stores but each also has some things the other doesn't. This is capitalism at work...not socialism. The Target doesn't fill a need such that there is no need to have competing stores.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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Well there's hope still! The NPU-B board denied the request to rezone for the development on Tuesday.

BuckheadView: NPU-B board also nixes Lindbergh area ‘big box’ development; hears hope for saving historic house

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The full board of Neighborhood Planning Units B voted 19-3-1 Tuesday night to deny the latest zoning request to build a mixed-use development off Piedmont Road in the Lindbergh area, that would include a “big box” Walmart store rather than a regular grocery store.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I'm within walking distance of a Target...and I would have no problem with a Walmart across the street too. Similar stores but each also has some things the other doesn't. This is capitalism at work...not socialism. The Target doesn't fill a need such that there is no need to have competing stores.
If there is anything I could draw your attention to... I would spot out the property that is involved. It is the most ideal property located for denser transit oriented development. It is one block from the MARTA station.

It is also the property between the MARTA station and big box stores to the north and dense residential developments to the north and south.

From a neighborhood building stand point it is key that this area be walkable and help tie together this area. Don't get me wrong... existing conditions are horrible, but it will prevent this area from reaching full potential with the plans they are showing.

It isn't that it is bad, in my opinion, there is a Wal-Mart... but it is the precision of where and how.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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I'm within walking distance of a Target...and I would have no problem with a Walmart across the street too. Similar stores but each also has some things the other doesn't. This is capitalism at work...not socialism. The Target doesn't fill a need such that there is no need to have competing stores.
Again, it's not about whether people like Walmart or whether this is a good location.

The issue is about how the development is done. You can do it well, or you can build a piece of junk.

Who votes for the junk?
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
 
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If there is anything I could draw your attention to... I would spot out the property that is involved. It is the most ideal property located for denser transit oriented development. It is one block from the MARTA station.

It is also the property between the MARTA station and big box stores to the north and dense residential developments to the north and south.

From a neighborhood building stand point it is key that this area be walkable and help tie together this area. Don't get me wrong... existing conditions are horrible, but it will prevent this area from reaching full potential with the plans they are showing.

It isn't that it is bad, in my opinion, there is a Wal-Mart... but it is the precision of where and how.
I had no idea that the entire future of a liveable Lindbergh hinged on a Walmart store.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
 
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Again, it's not about whether people like Walmart or whether this is a good location.

The issue is about how the development is done. You can do it well, or you can build a piece of junk.

Who votes for the junk?
I would find it VERY convenient. That to me is what Lindbergh is about. It's more of a suburban strip mall area than an budding showcase of urban planning.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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I would find it VERY convenient. That to me is what Lindbergh is about. It's more of a suburban strip mall area than an budding showcase of urban planning.
Mathman, you never cease to amaze me. Why is a junky Walmart more convenient to you than a well planned one?



Lindbergh certainly should be about good urban planning. That's why it was part of the Piedmont Corridor study, SPI-15, the Beltline planning group, the MARTA TOD, a connection point for four rail lines, intensive debate at the NPU, etc., etc.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:39 PM
 
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Mathman, you never cease to amaze me. Why is a junky Walmart more convenient to you than a well planned one?



Lindbergh certainly should be about good urban planning. That's why it was part of the Piedmont Corridor study, SPI-15, the Beltline planning group, the MARTA TOD, a connection point for four rail lines, intensive debate at the NPU, etc., etc.
It still looks like a cluster of large strip malls to me. A far cry from an urban planners dream. And junky Walmart happens to be the world's largest retailer.
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