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Old 07-18-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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A lot of people complain about chain stores.

I'm not saying chain stores are the best things going, but I think they are fine mixed in with a good mix of all kinds of businesses.

Anyway, I was in New York last week. And guess what I saw everywhere? That's right....chains! Chains as far as the eye could see, right there in the middle of MIDTOWN MANHATTAN!

The days of having to go to New Jersey to go to a chain seem to be over. There's even a Home Depot right there in the middle of everything.

Bottom line: chains do not ruin an urban core. Unless you think New York has been ruined.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:01 PM
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A lot of people complain about chain stores.

I'm not saying chain stores are the best things going, 1. but I think they are fine mixed in with a good mix of all kinds of businesses.Anyway, I was in New York last week. And guess what I saw everywhere? That's right....chains! 2. Chains as far as the eye could see, right there in the middle of MIDTOWN MANHATTAN!

The days of having to go to New Jersey to go to a chain seem to be over. There's even a Home Depot right there in the middle of everything.

Bottom line: chains do not ruin an urban core. Unless you think New York has been ruined.
1. I've never heard anyone make a claim to the contrary.

2. That sounds like an exciting place. Can't wait to spend my tourist dollars there.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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Main street, hometown USA used to be lined with locally owned businesses that helped to employ locals at decent wages and benefits and keep money in the community.

When a cost-cutting, price-slashing Mega-Lo Mart comes into town, that's kind of hard to compete with that. And even harder to live on Mega-Lo wages and benefits or lack thereof. I'm sure they'll all be granted waivers for providing health insurance for their employees come 2014.

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I'm not saying chain stores are the best things going, but I think they are fine mixed in with a good mix of all kinds of businesses.
Obviously there's all kinds of chains and many of which people don't consider to be evil but it's really hard to have this "good mix of all businesses" when big fish devour the little fish. Or when nobody pays a visit to their local family owned nursery anymore because why waste time doing that when you can just buy all your plants when you're at the Home Cheapo picking up batteries and paint.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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I don't think it's the chain store, but the big box discount stores. NY has Macy's as well as dozens of others.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: East Side of ATL
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A lot of people complain about chain stores.

I'm not saying chain stores are the best things going, but I think they are fine mixed in with a good mix of all kinds of businesses.

Anyway, I was in New York last week. And guess what I saw everywhere? That's right....chains! Chains as far as the eye could see, right there in the middle of MIDTOWN MANHATTAN!

The days of having to go to New Jersey to go to a chain seem to be over. There's even a Home Depot right there in the middle of everything.

Bottom line: chains do not ruin an urban core. Unless you think New York has been ruined.
It probably has do more with the rents getting so high that only chains can afford the rent anymore.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:38 PM
 
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I don't see any problem with chain stores. One of the things I like about New York is the way it blends in tons of local shops, galleries and restaurants along with the big department stores and chains. You get all the mainstream merchants but you also have a very rich local flavor.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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A lot of people complain about chain stores.

I'm not saying chain stores are the best things going, but I think they are fine mixed in with a good mix of all kinds of businesses.

Anyway, I was in New York last week. And guess what I saw everywhere? That's right....chains! Chains as far as the eye could see, right there in the middle of MIDTOWN MANHATTAN!

The days of having to go to New Jersey to go to a chain seem to be over. There's even a Home Depot right there in the middle of everything.

Bottom line: chains do not ruin an urban core. Unless you think New York has been ruined.
Personally, I like travelling around the country trying all the McDonalds' and Starbucks' in each city. I want to see and taste the same things where ever I go.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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Obviously there's all kinds of chains and many of which people don't consider to be evil but it's really hard to have this "good mix of all businesses" when big fish devour the little fish. Or when nobody pays a visit to their local family owned nursery anymore because why waste time doing that when you can just buy all your plants when you're at the Home Cheapo picking up batteries and paint.
Now it's online retailers like Amazon that are cutting into the "Big Box" markets. No bricks-n-mortar and salestaff, and for now no sales tax.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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There are ups and downs for chain stores. Because of the volume they do Chain stores can offer lower prices to the consumer. On the other hand, these lower prices put the small mom & pop stores out of business. it's a double edge sword.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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If you think about it from 30,000 ft up - the purpose of chains is to collect the masses money and distibute it to one man at the top.

If a town had 10 different mom/pop stores - each would have a business owner making a decent living, folks w/ living wages etc. A store does well. The owner thinks, to maximize profits, I can use the same knowledge/design/suppliers and do this elsewhere for slighlty cheaper (or franchise it out). The added money goes to the same man, while the owner in town two has to close shop. The cycles spins faster and faster - as the more stores that are opened, the cheaper the cost to produce the goods and thus lower prices, reflecting in low salaries.

Who wins - the man who is the owner now owns 38 Burger Kings and has 6 vacation homes, a yacht and an island. The white collar professionals (or anyone in a different industry) benefit because they have higher salaries, yet can spend less on the products. Everyone else, however, has a lower wage/no job or more pennies to pinch.

I would propose the "franchising" and "chain stores" of Americas is what has made the country so boring in the past 40 years. Why would I want to visit any suburb of Atlanta. It's just one Kohl's, next to a Panera, next to an LA Fitness, next to a Macy's. Which is exactly what Paramus, NJ looks like. Exactly what Shaumberg, IL looks like. So much so - that when traveling on vacation - you think - why even bother - it's exactly the same stuff I have at home. Notice, the only places you really enjoy, are those that ban/refuse to be "corporatized" - the beach towns, small quaint fishing villages, Newports of the world, Mackinac etc. Who is going to go on vacation and visit a Norcoss, Alpharatta or Sandy Springs. There's nothing there that isn't any different than 50,000 other towns.
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