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Old 10-07-2012, 09:44 AM
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Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Oddly enough, I remember Neal Boortz ranting on about Islam from time to time. Some of those rants being quite invidious. Last i checked Islam is a religion. Innit?

Boortz: Islam is a "deadly virus" and "we're going to wait far too long to develop a vaccine to find a way to fight this" | Video | Media Matters for America

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Oh, yeah. He is no fan of the religion of Islam in its extremist form. But then neither are my in-laws, born secular Muslims in Tehran who saw their lives devastated by it.
They actually agree with Boortz's position.

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Old 10-07-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Oh, yeah. He is no fan of the religion of Islam.
Exactly my point. He goes on about religion (and only one at that). He does not mention the IRA, Tamil Tigers, or the murders of Hindu priests by Christian missionaries in Orissa.

I stand by what I say. He is okay until he starts spewing hatred.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Oh, yeah. He is no fan of the religion of Islam in its extremist form. But then neither are my in-laws, born secular Muslims in Tehran who saw their lives devastated by it.
They actually agree with Boortz's position.
Your edit wasn't in my previous quote. I have lived in Saudi Arabia and the vast majority of the people are absolutely splendid. You cannot demonize 1 billion people by the actions of a small percentage of the population. My dad was almost killed by an IRA bomb, but he doesn't demonize Christians.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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Your edit wasn't in my previous quote. I have lived in Saudi Arabia and the vast majority of the people are absolutely splendid. You cannot demonize 1 billion people by the actions of a small percentage of the population. My dad was almost killed by an IRA bomb, but he doesn't demonize Christians.

Yeah, that's like saying sean and rush represent all republicans. The problem is the radicals speak louder than the sane folks and the sane folks are never willing to shout down the idiots out of fear.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 11:45 AM
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Your edit wasn't in my previous quote. I have lived in Saudi Arabia and the vast majority of the people are absolutely splendid. You cannot demonize 1 billion people by the actions of a small percentage of the population. My dad was almost killed by an IRA bomb, but he doesn't demonize Christians.
Yes, sorry about the edition. Phone rang and I hadnt finished my thought. And Im not challenging what you say, having Muslims in my family that live a peaceful existence.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 11:46 AM
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Yeah, that's like saying sean and rush represent all republicans. The problem is the radicals speak louder than the sane folks and the sane folks are never willing to shout down the idiots out of fear.
Well said.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 12:05 PM
 
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Yeah, that's like saying sean and rush represent all republicans. The problem is the radicals speak louder than the sane folks and the sane folks are never willing to shout down the idiots out of fear.
I know where you're going here, but I'm not sure that equivalence totally works. It's not like WSB or any network in this city is giving a regular daily megaphone to Islamic radicalists. (Nor should they.) But they regularly do so for American right-wing extremists. Limbaugh and Savage I would put more in that category than Hannity, who's more of a traditional/establishment Republican supporter (IMO).

Most of the time on-air, Boortz does clarify his stance on Islam, that he's against its radical versions. I just wish I heard him speak more consistently against religious extremism in this country. I do credit him for speaking out against how nutso some of the anti-abortion folks can get (like, clinic bomber types and single issue voting), as he's implicating some of the right wing from a genuinely libertarian perspective there.

I just don't happen to see much follow-through on some of the other major issues like same-sex marriage, which is largely lobbied against from fundamentalist Christians taking an anti-liberty stance. If Boortz's primary concern were truly about the tyranny of government--and not just about his own pocketbook--I'd expect to hear him more frequently (and as vociferously) call out the right wing on this stuff. (I just don't understand how he can vote for the current form of the Republican Party, whose platform isn't really libertarian.)
 
Old 10-07-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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Yeah, that's like saying sean and rush represent all republicans. The problem is the radicals speak louder than the sane folks and the sane folks are never willing to shout down the idiots out of fear.
Of course. I tend to vote republican. The way I see it, is that during the primary season the candidates pander to the "grassroots" by moving way to the right. My personal belief is that regulation need to be cut and the budget tackled. The country is declining and some candidates and radio presenters are sometimes just stuck on issues such as gay marriage and contraception.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Yes, sorry about the edition. Phone rang and I hadnt finished my thought. And Im not challenging what you say, having Muslims in my family that live a peaceful existence.
Np. And of course. My view is that it is to challenge certain actions, but when it crosses the line into hate that for me is unacceptable. That being said he has a right to say what he wants the say, and i respect that right.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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Yeah, that's like saying sean and rush represent all republicans. The problem is the radicals speak louder than the sane folks and the sane folks are never willing to shout down the idiots out of fear.
Unfortunately there's plenty of hatred from the crackpot radicals in our "homegrown" religions here in the U.S.
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