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Old 05-26-2013, 11:33 PM
 
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In my spare time I have been working on an Amtrak plan for the Southeast. Since this is a big job it is taking me quite a while so I decided to post a teaser. Here is a thrice daily round trip corridor service running between Atlanta and Montgomery dubbed the "Martin Luther King Jr." The name was chosen because of the significance of the two terminal cities to the life of the Reverend and the civil rights movement.

This is early and not super accurate. The times where estimated and a little awkward considering I had the train in both directions running at the same time. However this makes it possible to run this service with only 2 train sets in active service at any given time.

P.S. I have named the MMPT "Atlanta Central Station"



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Old 05-27-2013, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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I have a spreadsheet to more accurately estimate times which I may do tomorrow, but that seems pretty good. I think you'd need an extra hour, there's no way you're making LaGrange from Montgomery in 36 minutes! That would require averaging about 160mph! That's as good as long-distance 220mph high speed trains!
But I do like your schedule for a start, it's very similar to North Carolina's system where you have one train in the morning, 5 hours later, the noon train, then another 5 hours then the evening train. When they added that midday train, ridership skyrocketed so I think 3 trains per day is the minimum on similar-length corridors such as this.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:15 AM
 
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Oops. I see where I messed up. In my laziness of copying and pasting I forgot to reverse the times.

Thanks for the catch. I will fix it tomorrow.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:59 AM
 
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This is good, I like this.

One interesting component to this potential line would be that it could be used as a shuttle on college football gamedays between Atlanta and Auburn University.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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This wouldn't be the only train serving this corridor. A rerouted southbound crescent would serve it in the morning departing Atlanta around 8:40, the Northbound crescent would serve it later in the evening probably departing Montgomery around 5:30.

I am also considering a "Gulf Breeze" Train to run the route of the Crescent from Atlanta to New Orleans via Montgomery, Mobile, and the Gulf coast. It would run at opposite times, departing Atlanta heading south in the afternoon and heading north from New Orleans in the afternoon.

There is also the possibility of a once or twice daily train using this route but splitting off after Montgomery and heading to Panama City Beach. So all in all there could be up to 16 trains departing and Arriving in Atlanta heading along this corridor.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: 30080
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A stop in LaGrange, that would be epic. I'd be able to hop the train to see my parents and then back without having to drive. Back in the old days we actually had a train depot there but I think in that case you should probably add Hogansville as well. If that's the line i'm thinking it is then it runs right through Hogansville and they still have an old train depot setup right on the tracks.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Ok, I've created my own map and spreadsheet with mileages and times. I must apologize and correct myself, your estimate of 2:23 was not far off! My spreadsheet spits out 2:38 as the estimated travel time between Montgomery and Atlanta.
Here's the breakdown, I list the city, mileage from Atlanta, segment time, segment speed, and time to Atlanta. All times are in minutes:

Atlanta 0 Time Speed Time to ATL
Airport 8.91 11.5253333333 50 11.5253333333
Newnan 39.07 24.2229957806 79 37.7483291139
Grantville 51.29 10.5976793249 79 50.3460084388
Hogansville 58.05 6.4508438819 79 58.7968523207
LaGrange 71.42 11.4710970464 79 72.2679493671
Opelika 107.52 28.7343881857 79 103.0023375527
Auburn 114.36 6.5116033755 79 111.5139409283
Montgomery 172.12 45.185021097 79 158.6989620253

My spreadsheet factors in acceleration (1 mile per hour per second), and 2 minutes per station stop to get the time to Atlanta figure. West Point, GA/Lanett, AL probably could use a stop too, but that would only add about 4 minutes to the run time I think.

Note: CD Forum edited out most of the spaces so the "table" is probably a tad hard to read, but I'm not going to the effort to screenshot it tonight.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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What is the anticipated ridership for this line? Anticipated fare? Anticipated operating cost? Even if money to build it fell out of the sky, my guess is that it would require massive subsidy and serve few actual riders.

Are you working on this as a fantasy exercise or are you actually planning a prospective new line for the railroad?
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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What is the anticipated ridership for this line? Anticipated fare? Anticipated operating cost? Even if money to build it fell out of the sky, my guess is that it would require massive subsidy and serve few actual riders.
What is the anticipated usership for the next GDOT road project? Anticipated toll? Anticipated operating cost? Even if money to build all the next road projects fell out of the sky, my guess is that they would require massive subsidy and serve few actual users.
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Are you working on this as a fantasy exercise or are you actually planning a prospective new line for the railroad?
Mostly as fantasy, but it's never too early to look at various alternatives in order to talk to politicians later either when they are proposed, or to propose them ourselves.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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Wow. You really do love the choo choo.

Wouldn't it make more sense to choose cities worth connecting?
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