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Old 09-19-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Bring back Izzy.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I feel like this has already been done.

Peaking in the 80s most of the extra depictions and mascots have died downed/changed since then. Those that still exist have been altered to prevent negative depictions.

The main thing that has been kept is the foam tomahawk... perhaps even boosted.

The other major benefit... I think we are lucky that most images we project are positive, although I understand a few arguments that could be raised.

Anyways... I just thought I'd copy this in from wikipedia for entertainment:

Team names:
  • Atlanta Braves (1966–present)
Atlanta Braves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:17 PM
 
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We had the Atlanta crackers for years, which was a pejorative term for poor whites. That may not be a good comparison, however.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Actually, the Braves is a noble name. The thing that needs to go is that mindless tomahawk chop. I wish the Braves organization would stop encouraging fans to do the chop by handing out the foam tomahawks and playing the annoying warpath music. The tomahawk chop just makes Atlanta fans look ignorant.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Actually, the Braves is a noble name. The thing that needs to go is that mindless tomahawk chop. I wish the Braves organization would stop encouraging fans to do the chop by handing out the foam tomahawks and playing the annoying warpath music. The tomahawk chop just makes Atlanta fans look ignorant.
The Tomahawk chop originates from Florida State University... the Seminoles (and a name the Seminole nation is proud for FSU to hold by the way.) Deion Sanders, an FSU alum, brought it to the Braves when he played for them and the fans took off with it.

It's part of the lore now, don't think anyone can stop it. Thank goodness Political Correctness doesn't inhabit every corner of the country. Yet.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: The big blue yonder...
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We had the Atlanta crackers for years, which was a pejorative term for poor whites. That may not be a good comparison, however.
Right... And there was also the Atlanta Black Crackers...
Both HORRIBLE names...
I don't know what kind of retards came up with those old names, but of ALL the names and words in the English language, some complete dummy landed on Crackers and said "Yeah, that sounds like a good team name..." ?!?!?

But back then, those old guys just did not GIVE A $@#% about other human beings...
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The big blue yonder...
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The Tomahawk chop originates from Florida State University... the Seminoles (and a name the Seminole nation is proud for FSU to hold by the way.) Deion Sanders, an FSU alum, brought it to the Braves when he played for them and the fans took off with it.

It's part of the lore now, don't think anyone can stop it. Thank goodness Political Correctness doesn't inhabit every corner of the country. Yet.
Thanks for mentioning that. This is very true. In fact, before every FSU home game, the guy that rides out on the horse is reserved for a Real member of Seminole Nation.

If you're going to name a team after a people, THAT is the way to do it, and honor them. NOT jus throw the name up there (disregarding how it offends them) and claim they shouldn't be offended by it because you MEANT it to honor them. That way is such crap. Good intentions means nothing. Some of the worst crimes in history were done with good intentions.


I don't think the Tomahawk chop needs to go. I actually like it, because it keeps the Braves unique from all other baseball stadium experiences. I just wish it would get as loud and strong as it once did, back in '91, '92... Remember those days? When the chant could be heard from the Blimp and from the downtown connector?? Wish we could have those old fans back...
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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And again for some, we are not talking about the team NAME. I think we can all agree the NAME is fine and doesn't need to change. Nor does the Braves mascot NEED to change. But I'm just suggesting a change that could put the Braves in line with the other Atlanta teams (bird themed) AND also be viewed as stepping up and showing the other organizations (like Indians, Redskins and others) that it is okay & there are ways to make a change.

There are ways... For example, the Redskins (not saying this IS the answer, but just an example to show how there ARE ways) should drop the "Red" part and stick to "The Skins"
Already, some fans wear pig noses because part of the Skins theme is a pig. And the football is a "pigSKIN..." Just run with that theme. A new Hog mascot. Maybe start wearing a different helmet. They CAN even just stick with the "R" and feather logo to commemorate the history of the franchise without running with the offensive name and depiction of a Native American person logo. Just an idea. There are ways.
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Wouldn't that be offensive to eagles?
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:40 PM
 
Location: East Atlanta
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"I've had a long night and i hate the f#%king Eagles, man!" - The Dude
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