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Originally Posted by StAubin
Washington, DC is probably our best model for Heavy rail expansion. MARTA and WMATA are very similar in design and function. The DC metro is about the same size as ours and their suburbs are similar in layout to ours. WMATA also happens to be the second busiest rapid transit system in the country behind New York.
Why would Atlanta look to Portland or Charlotte for expansion ideas?? Charlotte has a light rail with like 4 stations...lol...they are looking to us...our Beltline is bigger than that!!
Why would Atlanta look to Portland or Charlotte for expansion ideas?? Charlotte has a light rail with like 4 stations...lol...they are looking to us...our Beltline is bigger than that!!
Because in addition to the aforementioned Beltline, there are other particular geographical corridors within the Atlanta metro region where light rail transit would possibly be a good fit (geographical corridors like US 41 Cobb Parkway, and the Emory/Clifton Corridor) and Portland and Charlotte are amongst the cities that have seemingly successfully implemented light rail transit networks.
Why would Atlanta look to Portland or Charlotte for expansion ideas?? Charlotte has a light rail with like 4 stations...lol...they are looking to us...our Beltline is bigger than that!!
LYNX in Charlotte has 15 stations, and after the extension (which is already under construction), it will consist of 26 stations and be about 19 miles long. Charlotte really isn't looking at Atlanta when it comes to implementation of rail-based transit--and construction on the rail portion of the Beltline is honestly nowhere in sight--since its needs are different and new HRT systems aren't being built anymore. As Born 2 Roll has stated, certain corridors here in the Atlanta area are ideally suited for light rail and Atlanta could take some notes from cities that have already successfully implemented such. Charlotte has also done a good job with connecting land use to transit as the TOD boom within proximity to LYNX stations clearly demonstrates. This is one area in which Atlanta has historically lagged, although this is about to change (thankfully).
LYNX in Charlotte has 15 stations, and after the extension (which is already under construction), it will consist of 26 stations and be about 19 miles long. Charlotte really isn't looking at Atlanta when it comes to implementation of rail-based transit--and construction on the rail portion of the Beltline is honestly nowhere in sight--since its needs are different and new HRT systems aren't being built anymore. As Born 2 Roll has stated, certain corridors here in the Atlanta area are ideally suited for light rail and Atlanta could take some notes from cities that have already successfully implemented such. Charlotte has also done a good job with connecting land use to transit as the TOD boom within proximity to LYNX stations clearly demonstrates. This is one area in which Atlanta has historically lagged, although this is about to change (thankfully).
What? Midtown has been in a major boom for about a decade now and most of that is due to the N/S subway line. Almost no Southern city has anything like Midtown in Atlanta...maybe Dallas? I don't even think any Dallas neighborhood is as residentially dense as Midtown.
Buckhead has also grown along the MARTA stations.
Maybe you mean Lindbergh type developments(which IMO isn't that great).
Last edited by Ant131531; 10-27-2013 at 03:07 AM..
What? Midtown has been in a major boom for about a decade now and most of that is due to the N/S subway line. Almost no Southern city has anything like Midtown in Atlanta...maybe Dallas? I don't even think any Dallas neighborhood is as residentially dense as Midtown.
Buckhead has also grown along the MARTA stations.
Maybe you mean Lindbergh type developments(which IMO isn't that great).
Those are good points about MARTA heavy rail playing a major role in the continuing development booms in the Midtown and Buckhead areas.
But transit-oriented developments like at Lindbergh are vitally-important because those types of high-density mixed-use developments on transit authority-owned land around train stations are increasingly going to serve as a critical source of revenue for system operations and expansions in the increasing absence of funding from traditional sources (local, regional, state and federal tax revenues).
The leasing of transit authority-owned land for the type of transit-oriented development that has sprouted around the Lindbergh MARTA Station is a revenue-producing approach that a transit agency like MARTA will desperately need to replicate at every station where there is available land and/or vertical space for the transit agency to remain financially and operationally-viable moving forward.
In addition to generating critically-needed operating revenues, transit-oriented developments like the type found at Lindbergh can also help transit systems increase ridership since thousands of people often live, work, do business, shop and eat in the high-density mixed-use developments that are anchored by transit stations.
Last edited by Born 2 Roll; 10-27-2013 at 12:28 PM..
What? Midtown has been in a major boom for about a decade now and most of that is due to the N/S subway line. Almost no Southern city has anything like Midtown in Atlanta...maybe Dallas? I don't even think any Dallas neighborhood is as residentially dense as Midtown.
Buckhead has also grown along the MARTA stations.
Maybe you mean Lindbergh type developments(which IMO isn't that great).
I'm talking specifically about TOD projects centered around rail stations. Lindbergh is about the best example of such here in Atlanta, but look at the DC region for a handful of successful TOD projects over the years.
Even the earliest transit-joint developments in Midtown and Buckhead were mainly in the form of office towers and very little, if any, mixed-use projects.
Although I personally like the layouts of cities such as New york, Portland, and Toronto I think that Atlanta should look to cities such as Boston and DC. Both of these cities (esp. Boston) are much less dense when you get a few miles from the city cores which is much like Atlanta. Atlanta will never be as compact as Portland, it can still improve it's public transportation system and cut back on car-dependence.
I hope one day Marta will be extensive enough for a car not to be necessary here. That's the only thing I really miss about DC, with the Metro I didn't even miss having a car... not even a little.
I hope you plan on living way past 100.
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