What do you want to see in the new Braves stadium? (Atlanta: apartments, crime)

[Cameron H]

Originally Posted by JoeP

Talk of "improving" moving cars to and from the stadium would be funny if this weren't so serious.

It's just a fact that the vast majority of people attending Braves' games get to the stadium by automobile. It's just a fact that most of them come from the suburbs. So it's not at all a joke to focus on getting cars into and out of the area, regardless of what public transit options are available or become available in the future.

Worse, there is NO way to accommodate such traffic in that bottle neck.

Honestly, that's just silly. You have 50 weeknight games a year that infrastructure will have to accommodate because of the Braves stadium. Normal growth and development will place a much greater burden on that infrastructure in the coming years, even if the Braves had stayed at Turner Field. So you're saying the Cumberland area can't afford to grow because there's "NO way" to accommodate increased traffic 365 days a year? Please.

This is a terrible idea that is simply being justified by people who aren't impacted unless they attend a game. This is insane.

I live in Smyrna and commute to Perimeter. You're hysterical.

[boo radley]

Originally Posted by cqholt

As the crow flies? We don't even know where the pedestrian bridge will go? What about those parking at Cumberland Mall?

There is already a pedestrian bridge spanning 41 connecting the galleria with Cumberland mall. It wouldn't be a 1 mile walk down pan-handler alley like at the Ted. With a bridge over 285, the Galleria and Cumberland would benefit from more walking traffic as well as all the bars and restaurants in the immediate area.

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by J2rescue

Because noone builds transit infrastructure for a single purpose such as a stadium. Presumably there is already a market for transit access to that area given the relative concentration of jobs there.

Is there? Where's the study and evidence that points that out? Where is the cost analysis that provides the specifics on cost versus benefit?

During the debate of TSPLOST, the cost for LRT to Arts Center from Cumberland Mall was pegged at nearly a billion dollars, yet no one could show anything specific on the expected ridership and why it was worth spending a billion in capital costs, along with some amount in annual operating costs.

The problem with transit (generally) is that you have to guess, then spend a fortune to build it, and then spend huge sums annually to operate and maintain it, much of it coming from taxpayer subsidy if the ridership is a bust.

[westau]

Originally Posted by cqholt

As the crow flies? We don't even know where the pedestrian bridge will go? What about those parking at Cumberland Mall?

They pretty specifically said it would go from the Cobb Galleria across I-285 so I measured it as the crow flies from the middle of the Galleria to the first road on the other side Circle 75 parkway which will be the south road boundary of the property. People parking at Cumberland Mall it would be about 0.7-0.8 mile walk to the stadium. Cobb Parkway and Circle 75 also already have sidewalks so that isn't an issue.

Originally Posted by cqholt

A huge reason for leaving was transportation issues. At the Ted there was a station 1 mile, 2 bus routes, a FREE shuttle, and it was a the convergence of 3 major freeways. The proposed site is at a major bottleneck, has 0 stations, 0 bus routes, 0 sidewalks connectivity. How is moving to the new site going to be a solution to the Braves transportation issues?

All the roads in that area have sidewalks already and technically CCT has a bus route that runs along Cobb Parkway with stops very close to the proposed site. I do agree with you that overall the new site isn't better than Turner Field for transit but I would also argue that Turner Field as a whole has pretty poor transit access relative to other venues in town like the Dome and Phillips and also many other stadiums in other cities so it isn't like they are leaving some wonderful transit situation right now.

Originally Posted by Cameron H

That would be great, but I think it's an unrealistic expectation. Major transportation improvements are going to be driven by the overall traffic load -- not 50 weeknight home games a year. Braves traffic just isn't going to make sufficient impact to drive those kinds of investments all by itself. Hopefully the overall development of the area, Braves related and otherwise, will justify those investments, though.

It probably won't even be 50 games a year, probably more like 35-40 taking out day games although those would end around rush hour so I guess you would still need to plan around them some.

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Personally, I'm not for this. Cobb County will spend 400 million on a new stadium, but will block MARTA rail, and then get mired in slashing teaching jobs.

Wrong thread, this is about what you want to see in the stadium, there are several others for whether or not you like the idea.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by red92s

An asteroid . . .

lolwut?

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by red92s

An asteroid . . .

That's when it's in space. On the ground or in a stadium it is called a meteorite.

[arjay57]

If the Braves were prepared to run a privately financed maglev to Turner field then maybe they will run one to their new stadium.

[UrbanConquistador]

A sharknado.

[cqholt]

There is already a pedestrian bridge spanning 41 connecting the galleria with Cumberland mall. It wouldn't be a 1 mile walk down pan-handler alley like at the Ted. With a bridge over 285, the Galleria and Cumberland would benefit from more walking traffic as well as all the bars and restaurants in the immediate area.

Oh yes because Cheesecake factory is such fine dining and a great sports bar.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Oh yes because Cheesecake factory is such fine dining and a great sports bar.

A lot of folks enjoy having a nice, clean place like the Cheesecake factory where you can take the kids and be certain that you're getting a good value for your dollar.