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Old 05-13-2014, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I don't think so. Marlins Park seemed to have a bunch of empty promises for nearby development that never materialized, whereas the new Braves stadium already has some specific plans in place.
EG: the bridge over 285 that now may not be built?

 
Old 05-13-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Hmm.

Cobb approves transit study for area around Braves stadium | www.ajc.com

Circulator buses. Not mass transit. Yet.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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I'm confused as to how they are able to get ~350k of federal money for a study for a county that's supposedly the poster child for core conservative values and minimizing federal largess.

How do you fill out the grant even? What's the overarching public good here? Ex: Study to reduce traffic caused by a poorly planned stadium that we aren't able to fund completely b/c we didn't want to give our constituents a say so we could stick it to the city of Atlanta.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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I'm confused as to how they are able to get ~350k of federal money for a study for a county that's supposedly the poster child for core conservative values and minimizing federal largess.

The feds gave the city of Atlanta nearly 150 times that much ($50,000,000) for a 2.7 mile streetcar loop. I don't see the problem.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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The feds gave the city of Atlanta got nearly 150 times that much ($50,000,000) for a 2.7 mile streetcar loop. I don't see the problem.
No kidding.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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The feds gave the city of Atlanta got nearly 150 times that much ($50,000,000) for a 2.7 mile streetcar loop. I don't see the problem.
The streetcar will actually be useful. That's the difference.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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EG: the bridge over 285 that now may not be built?
cqholt, you're reaching just a little bit now. Reel it on back in...

Marlins Park doesn't have the space to even BEGIN to think about surrounding itself with the development that most likely WILL happen around the Braves stadium. I'm not particularly fond of the move either, but you're doing too much.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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Whatever happened to the "spread the wealth around" theory? Or does that mean "just to my friends"?

Don't forget Cobb went 43% for Obama and it may be getting close to blue now.

Not that it should matter.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 05:38 PM
 
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Whatever happened to the "spread the wealth around" theory? Or does that mean "just to my friends"?

Don't forget Cobb went 43% for Obama and it may be getting close to blue now.

Not that it should matter.
Spreading the wealth around would be using the taxes collected from the county to actually benefit those on the wrong side of I-75. Sure the Braves are making a big capital investment in the area but all the tax breaks they're getting + all the property tax revenue going into paying for the space may not have a net positive for anyone who actually lives in Cobb county (any Liberty/Braves execs excluded).

The study is an afterthought as the bus plans are already baked into the agreement as the extent of transportation improvements to the area. The Braves claimed Turner field was 5,000 spots too small for their needs so they're new plan is to build 2,500 fewer spots than before and solve all their problems with a fleet of buses. If the bridge plans fall through (they can't pass the buck to the state quickly enough), then they'll either have to build a deck on-site or buy more buses and saturate the areas streets w/ slow moving buses.

I can't imagine the headache after a game of trying to find a Cheesecake bus vs. a B&N bus or perhaps the Hooters bus. If it's a single loop, add 30 min just getting out. I think dedicated infrastructure w/ a people mover train would be most optimal but obviously there's nothing budgeted for that.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Spreading the wealth around would be using the taxes collected from the county to actually benefit those on the wrong side of I-75. Sure the Braves are making a big capital investment in the area but all the tax breaks they're getting + all the property tax revenue going into paying for the space may not have a net positive for anyone who actually lives in Cobb county (any Liberty/Braves execs excluded).
I thought the complaint was about Cobb getting a measly $350K in federal funding for transit.

That's dwarfed by the loot that the feds "spread around" for transit all the time. In addition to the $50 million streetcar grant I mentioned above, the feds give MARTA about $100 million a year.
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