Fast Food workers picketing outside of Krystals on Moreland Ave (Atlanta: receptions, crime)

[gerrythesnake]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

I used to work for the State of Georgia. One of the attorneys I used to work with ending up getting fired (and disbarred) because he had gone to some club, started a fight, then tried to set the place on fire. It was in the news. Another one of the attorneys I worked with was on drugs. The director of another state agency I worked for was busted for child porn (child porn was found on his work computer). That was in the news too.

Improprieties in the work place don't just happen with low-wage workers. Even educated professionals do crazy stuff. Stop acting like the kind of work low-wage workers do is some indication of poor character.

I agree 100%. All I'm saying is you get paid what you are worth. Nobody deserves anything in life. You get back whatever you put into your career.

If someone does not like what they are getting paid they should change careers.

That's like saying a 70 year old male midget stripper should get paid the same a buff 6'8 bodybuilder. That's just isn't the way the world works. That male midget might want to look into going to school

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by JPD

Yeah, I'm sure you went to the same quality school system as middle and lower class people, had nobody to fall back on if you failed, had the same quality of shelter, clothing, transportation, nutrition, and parental involvement as the middle and lower classes, had the same professional network as those in the middle and lower classes, etc.

Gross. Just stop, please. You're making yourself look terrible.

Yes, well...one thing my upper middle class parents did give me that I consider an advantage...an aversion to whining. It's come in very handy.

[noah]

We sure don't all start the same but many of us who grew up poor work hard and do well. Maybe it is my upbringing but I feel like I am in a place now where I do well but I look at the government and my family would qualify for subsidies for healthcare - we are a one income family though. These days people often make you feel poor if you only make $50, 60 or $70k.

Part of what I see is real wage issues if you assume these folks never advance beyond minimum wage (traditionally it was mainly young kids and the like in these jobs) but a big part is also our culture of always wanting more. Adjusted for inflation a house hasn't really changed in price but for most it has because instead of a 1,000 sq ft place they Need a 3,000 sq ft place and all the stuff that goes in it. Cars are made better than ever before but the average price is $30k now and most people don't keep them long. Then theirs cell phones ($100+ a month-Needs for most regardless of income), computers, cable tv ($100+ month) etc.

Originally Posted by JPD

They're virtually all of the people born into upper middle class families. Anyone who can't admit that this demographic (and those above it) have massive advantages over everyone else is an intellectually dishonest person. We don't all start at the same base in our careers, as you claimed. That's a silly and insulting thing to say.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by ehoez

i dont like the fact, the people who start these protest, arent even the ones who work at the restaurants.

they just spread misinformation, to the uneducated, turn them into pawns to do their dirty work.

i doubt these two ever worked fast food in the last 10yrs.

Many of the protesters are admitting they have been paid to be there. Smoke and mirrors.

[Atlanta_BD]

Originally Posted by gerrythesnake

I agree 100%. All I'm saying is you get paid what you are worth. Nobody deserves anything in life. You get back whatever you put into your career.

If someone does not like what they are getting paid they should change careers.

That's like saying a 70 year old male midget stripper should get paid the same a buff 6'8 bodybuilder. That's just isn't the way the world works. That male midget might want to look into going to school

But why in your mind are they only worth a little bit of money and that they are deserving of being talked down about? What is it about people in these jobs that you think less of them? And do you really think it's easy for people to switch careers after we are still recovering from the worst economic downturn since the depression? People with skills and degrees are STILL struggling to find decent work for decent pay. Why are people working low-wage jobs being viewed as squandering opportunities or lazy?

[gerrythesnake]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

By why in your mind are they only worth a little bit of money and that they are deserving of being talked down about? What is it about people in these jobs that you think less of them? And do you really think it's easy for people to switch careers after we are still recovering from the worst economic downturn since the recession. People with skills and degrees are STILL struggling to find decent work for decent pay. Why are people working low-wage jobs being viewed as squandering opportunities or lazy?

I'm about done with this topic but I will say this. If they want more money they need to step up and do something into increase their worth and not complain about what they are getting paid. It's as simple as that. It's not that hard to understand. Why beg for more money when you can just go to a tech school/college/military/start a business/etc and gain a skill that will pay more. I know I couldn't live the lifestyle that I want with a Burger King paycheck so I did what I had to do to be worth more.

[Atlanta_BD]

Originally Posted by gerrythesnake

I'm about done with this topic but I will say this. If they want more money they need to step up and do something into increase their worth and not complain about what they are getting paid. It's as simple as that. It's not that hard to understand. Why beg for more money when you can just go to a tech school/college/military/start a business/etc and gain a skill that will pay more. I know I couldn't make it rain at the strip club with a Burger King paycheck so I did what I had to do to be worth more.

Then if all fast food workers took your advice, who would run the restaurants? Perhaps the CEO's of these companies who make all these millions per year can do the work themselves since they are making so much money and they don't want to pay anyone a decent salary to run the businesses that are making them rich.

I say since the lowly workers aren't worth much, fire them all and let the owners and executives do all the work. At least they'll pocket even more money since they won't have to pay anyone.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

Many of the protesters are admitting they have been paid to be there. Smoke and mirrors.

Typical union play... I'll never forget the day I asked an AT&T "protestor" what they did for the company. I got a blank look and the "boss" told me to move on...

[JPD]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

Yes, well...one thing my upper middle class parents did give me that I consider an advantage...an aversion to whining. It's come in very handy.

Not whining in the least. I was born into a financially stable family and have done pretty well for myself. Just stating facts that you insist on hiding from.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by JPD

Not whining in the least. I was born into a financially stable family and have done pretty well for myself. Just stating facts that you insist on hiding from.

I never asked my family for a dime or anything else. Was a single mother and career woman for a very large chunk of my life. Forgive me if I don't share your POV. It simply isn't my life experience.