2-tower Midtown Project proposed

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by gtcorndog

Making changes that ruin major thoroughfares traversed by tens of thousands of people each day in the name of making a neighborhood (that a few thousand people live in) walkable is pure stupidity.

unless that place is in cobb county; then it's smart!

[UrbanConquistador]

Originally Posted by gtcorndog

The current setup isn't stopping development.

Atlanta needed time to grow and now there is sufficient demand to build there.

Making changes that ruin major thoroughfares traversed by tens of thousands of people each day in the name of making a neighborhood (that a few thousand people live in) walkable is pure stupidity.

Originally Posted by bryantm3

unless that place is in cobb county; then it's smart!

Bryantm3, if I weren't forced to "spread the Reputation around", I would definitely rep you for that. Excellent come back.

Also, I wouldn't call Midtown's population of roughly 30,000 only a "few thousand people".

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by Frankster87

Bryantm3, if I weren't forced to "spread the Reputation around", I would definitely rep you for that. Excellent come back.

Also, I wouldn't call Midtown's population of roughly 30,000 only a "few thousand people".

a lot of that is in the sfh part south of 10th.

[StAubin]

Destroying neighborhoods and reducing bike/bed and even auto safety in the name of traffic is about as stupid as it gets.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

unless that place is in cobb county; then it's smart!

[UrbanConquistador]

Originally Posted by cqholt

a lot of that is in the sfh part south of 10th.

No argument here, but I think it's safe to say that they will still benefit from a more pedestrian friendly West Peachtree/Spring St. Corridor.

I live well south of 10th on Peachtree and both of those streets are still basically highways by me too. If we are talking about improving the entire stretch of those streets, then we could even add the Sono/Downtown area to that benefit as well.

[jsvh]

Public roads should be designed for the benefit of the local residents. Not those that are speeding through. If a road is being designed for the benefit of the local residents then they should not be paying for it. Those that are speeding through should be paying for it.

[Mossberg]

Playing devil's advocate.....

I don't currently see a problem with walking that particular corridor of midtown. As long as you use the crosswalks and cross when you are supposed to, it makes no difference what speeds the cars travel down Spring/W. Ptree.

I'm sure that most local residents wouldn't want to sit in the added traffic that comes with making those streets two-way traffic when they need to drive somewhere. I know I would hate to sit in more traffic just to get to/from my home.

Walkability is a great thing, but how does adding more congestion significantly help walkability?

Now biking is another story. I agree that a bike lane and lower speeds would definitely help on those streets (where there currently isn't one).

[J2rescue]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

unless that place is in cobb county; then it's smart!

Also Corn doesn't get that making the neighborhood more walkable is one of the primary factors in the its ability to attract new development.

[J2rescue]

Originally Posted by Mossberg

Playing devil's advocate.....

I don't currently see a problem with walking that particular corridor of midtown. As long as you use the crosswalks and cross when you are supposed to, it makes no difference what speeds the cars travel down Spring/W. Ptree.

I'm sure that most local residents wouldn't want to sit in the added traffic that comes with making those streets two-way traffic when they need to drive somewhere. I know I would hate to sit in more traffic just to get to/from my home.

Walkability is a great thing, but how does adding more congestion significantly help walkability?

Now biking is another story. I agree that a bike lane and lower speeds would definitely help on those streets (where there currently isn't one).

The speed of traffic absolutely impacts walk ability. It is decidedly less pleasant to walk on a road with speeding traffic especially without any barrier between the sidewalk and the street. There’s a perception of safety (or lack of) in the current conditions on that stretch.

Making the streets two-way would not in itself create gridlock. The two lanes of northbound traffic would merely be shifted over from W Peachtree to Spring Street. Also studies have shown that the optimum speed for moving the most number of vehicles is 45 mph.

It’s not the responsibility of the neighborhood to provide the fastest throughway. There’s a 20-lane expressway a couple of blocks away for that purpose and some very good solutions for adding access to the expressway have been mentioned here on this forum that would improve traffic flow. For too long city neighborhoods have sacrificed walkability which for urban areas equals livability, for the sake of cars and we’ve seen how the city declined during that period of time.