$59 Billion Plan For Region Could Improve Intown ATL

[MattCW]

I'm guessing you haven't seen the LPA for Clifton Corridor because it only has a few at-grade sections, and those are in protected reservations unlike the Atlanta streetcar. The rest is underground, overhead structure, or at-grade separated and alongside the CSX right of way.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by MattCW

I'm guessing you haven't seen the LPA for Clifton Corridor because it only has a few at-grade sections, and those are in protected reservations unlike the Atlanta streetcar. The rest is underground, overhead structure, or at-grade separated and alongside the CSX right of way.

it has shared right of way on clifton road and on scott boulevard. they changed it.

[MattCW]

They haven't committed to that just yet, but even so, the "shared lanes" on Clifton are for a very short segment, and I doubt they'll go with less than a dedicated reservation when it's all said and done.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by MattCW

I'm guessing you haven't seen the LPA for Clifton Corridor because it only has a few at-grade sections, and those are in protected reservations unlike the Atlanta streetcar. The rest is underground, overhead structure, or at-grade separated and alongside the CSX right of way.

Explains the cost.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I can tell you for a fact that the government hasn't done any upkeep on most of the roads in my area for years.

We could work wonders with the $15 million they are allocating to operate the 2.7 miles streetcar for a few years, not to mention the $100 million spent to build it.

These streetcars are a Field of Dreams. Build it and they will come. Not just ride the streetcar which travels as slow as a bus, but developers will increase density. And not a single one of those new residents will use cars on the already overburdened arterial street system which will lose lanes to the streetcars.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I'm so tired of the anti-transit attitude in this city. There's no wonder cities like Houston, Seattle and Dallas are sweeping past this city. Nothing can ever get done about anything without it being political. That's why Atlanta will never push that barrier that separates it from a truly world class metropolis(NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, etc).

I've never seen a city that is more anti-road than Atlanta is now (I realize it hasn't always been that way).

Its not anti-transit. Just everyone wants someone else to pay for it.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

the clifton corridor LPA sucks. it's essentially a 14 mile streetcar.

Agreed. And its on some of the most congested streets in the area.

It was originally designed as a MARTA extension with twice the ridership, but the Emory LaVista group didn't like the idea of MARTA heavy rail running next to the railroad tracks (they have freight trains, but somehow didn't like MARTA heavy rail while MARTA light rail was acceptable????)

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by bu2

Agreed. And its on some of the most congested streets in the area.

It was originally designed as a MARTA extension with twice the ridership, but the Emory LaVista group didn't like the idea of MARTA heavy rail running next to the railroad tracks (they have freight trains, but somehow didn't like MARTA heavy rail while MARTA light rail was acceptable????)

it's BS. i don't see it as worth the funding unless the right-of-way is exclusive, especially considering the costs are about the same. i'd rather get the beltline off of the ground rather than fund the gutted clifton corridor project.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

the clifton corridor LPA sucks. it's essentially a 14 mile streetcar.

Indeed. I hate that MARTA caved to the local pressure of not considering HRT there.