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Old 01-20-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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Ending/Reducing Homelessness: A Possible Model for Atlanta and Georgia
*Utah's Housing First program could possibly be a model for Atlanta and Georgia.


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Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes | NationofChange

Republican state gives free houses to moochers, cuts homelessness by 74 percent.


Utah --> Republican/Conservative
Georgia --> Republican/Conservative


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Old 01-20-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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Let's forget labels, and just use best practices. Good for Utah.

Per the first article: "Permanent housing for the homeless is cheaper than criminalization"

Happy MLK Day!
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Well GDOT clearing out tent city under the 20/connector interchange doesn't help.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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Let's forget labels, and just use best practices. Good for Utah.

Per the first article: "Permanent housing for the homeless is cheaper than criminalization"

Happy MLK Day!
From the first article:

"Housing is not only more human, it’s economical.

This happened in a Republican state! Republicans in Congress would probably have required the homeless to take a drug test before getting an apartment, denied apartments to homeless people with criminal records, and evicted those who failed to become self-sufficient after five years or so. But Utah’s results show that even conservative states can solve problems like homelessness with decidedly progressive solutions."


How about let's forget about living in "la-la-land" and confront and talk about an issue and situation for what it is...labels, fables, or what-not.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:15 PM
 
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I would support exploring this idea. If a house has been sitting vacant for 9 months or more, why not give it to a homeless person?

There should be some rules about them keeping it up, which assumes they will have some source of income to do that. I'm sure there are other details that would have to be worked out but this seems like a step in the right direction.
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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People also need jobs that pay a living wage. Yes, we can give homeless people homes, but homes have costs and have to be maintained.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:28 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I'm not against a better housing solution for our homeless population, but it must go further than that. The problems of drug/alcohol abuse, mental/physical health problems, physical abuse from where they came, and whole host of problems cannot be fixed by a house alone.

Or, we can just follow NYC's lead and give our homeless a one way ticket elsewhere (not serious with this suggestion):

New York gives homeless people a one-way ticket to leave city | World news | theguardian.com
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Old 01-20-2014, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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I'm not against a better housing solution for our homeless population, but it must go further than that. The problems of drug/alcohol abuse, mental/physical health problems, physical abuse from where they came, and whole host of problems cannot be fixed by a house alone.

Or, we can just follow NYC's lead and give our homeless a one way ticket elsewhere (not serious with this suggestion):

New York gives homeless people a one-way ticket to leave city | World news | theguardian.com
Truth here War. From my years in ministry related occupations, some people DO NOT want to be helped. The addiction is more than substance, it is a mindset that is not easily changed, even with charitable offerings. It is heartbreaking to pour time, effort, sweat and tears.... and money... into someone who has no will or heart or mindset to change.

I have to prod myself to not be jaded by these examples and will myself to focus on those that did appreciate the help given to better themselves. Many success stories that make it all worth while. But there is no magic wand here sad to say.
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Old 01-20-2014, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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But the above is not to negate the report Aries links. It should help for sure. Just won't solve the problem. The problem will always be with us.
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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I agree with SaintMarks, it's definitely about mindset. All the help in the world won't help until that person has decided they want the help. If anyone has the extra time or funds to donate one of the many great organizations we have in Atlanta that I really like is the Atlanta Center for Self Sufficiency ACSS - Atlanta Center for Self Sufficiency
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