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Old 05-01-2014, 04:20 PM
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What's so interesting to me, and what seems to not be reported as much, is how the urban/rural divide has also affected politics. It used to be that Democrats could count on winning a lot of very rural areas of the country, like coal country in Appalachia and areas of the deep south. But that region has become increasingly Republican while cities and these mature suburbs mentioned in the article have really swung towards the Democrats. This probably has a lot to do with GOP rhetoric that really appeals to rural, conservative, traditional voters. Democrats, on the other hand, increasingly tout diversity and better access to programs and services that resonates with people living urban areas, where these issues are more important to them.

Take a look at this gif of how D and R support has changed across Georgia. You can see the metro swing heavily to Democrats while the rural areas get much much redder



I think this pic sums up the article very well. Dems used to win Georgia on the strength of rural areas, but if they ever want to win again here they will need to rely on Metro Atlanta.
Rural southern voters have just gotten away from being yellow dog Democrats and started favoring the Republicans like rural voters in the rest of the country. Even New York and California are a sea of red with little blue patches. Its just that most people in NY and CA live in those blue patches. Republicans have since Lincoln been traditionally sympathetic to the needs of farmers.
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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As for the interesting analysis above @ 6:20, I recall during the Bush years when there was much joy & awe emanating from the gop pundit elites over the "red" map of the US that showed a dominant looking sea of red colored counties across the US. Karl Rove's eyes fairly burned with the lust for a new gop tide of long-lasting.
More recently, I have seen a map developed by a university that more prominently weighted the heavily populated counties where the great masses of voters live & in which the "sea of red" counties were less weighted in prominence on that new map given that so many red counties were small in population or barely populated at all.
On another angle, formerly very prominently red suburban counties such as Cobb & Gwinnett that 30 years ago used to vote at margins of close to 70% for republican presidential candidates are maturing & much larger today & their color is turning purple with gop presidential percentages dropping steadily on down through the 50 plus percentage figures.
The writing is on the wall for Georgia.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:47 AM
 
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http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/...cartrb1024.png

Here is what I think you meant. Is a map of 2012 election by county with county sizes adjusted based on population.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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^^^I concur. The future of Georgia politically looks very parallel to the political futures of states like Virginia and Maryland. You either get with the program and take on more social egalitarian perspective or get pushed out. The racial diversity of the Metro Atlanta region will be litmus for the future of Georgia.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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On a related note, looks like the governor's race will be close: 11Alive poll: Deal holds slim lead over Carter
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/...cartrb1024.png

Here is what I think you meant. Is a map of 2012 election by county with county sizes adjusted based on population.
That actually looks like an exotic butterfly.
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: O4W
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A former Democrat and now a libertarian we need Georgia to stay Republican. We do not want Atlanta to turn into a Chicago with extremely high taxes
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Old 05-02-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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A former Democrat and now a libertarian we need Georgia to stay Republican. We do not want Atlanta to turn into a Chicago with extremely high taxes
I don't think we need to stay "Republican" I think we need to shift towards more libertarian values. Republicans are guilty of more spending and fiscal irresponsibility recently. Look at how GOP stronghold Cobb has been raising taxes and COA has been selling off properties and cutting waste left and right (of course it has plenty to cut).

The real win is if we can become a purple state where you actually have to be a reasonable candidate that does whats best for the people. Not a shoe-in extremist from either political party.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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I don't think we need to stay "Republican" I think we need to shift towards more libertarian values. Republicans are guilty of more spending and fiscal irresponsibility recently. Look at how GOP stronghold Cobb has been raising taxes and COA has been selling off properties and cutting waste left and right (of course it has plenty to cut).

The real win is if we can become a purple state where you actually have to be a reasonable candidate that does whats best for the people. Not a shoe-in extremist from either political party.
Fully agree with all of this - I've it's making me spread my "rep" around, but I'd definitely rep you if I could. I agree, extremist on either end isn't a good thing, and that's why I think Carter is a good option for Georgia at the moment. He's not extremely liberal like many democrats - I'd say he's more in the middle, with some conservative views and some liberal. I think it would be a nice change. Deal seemed that way towards the beginning, but as the elections come near, he is becoming more extreme conservative again. At the same time, he is trying to buy votes from educators and other parts of the public sector after years of budget cuts from these areas.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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The real win is if we can become a purple state where you actually have to be a reasonable candidate that does whats best for the people. Not a shoe-in extremist from either political party.
jsvh - you and I do agree on something!
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