Atlanta Vonage Office moving 800 employees from Midtown to Cumberland (Sandy Springs: 2013, neighborhoods)

[atlantagreg30127]

Folks- the topic IS NOT about the new Braves Stadium.

Period.

[lem1985]

because in the 90s that's when the real ITP vs OTP became overblown

[AtlantaIsHot]

Originally Posted by arjay57

What's good for Cobb is good for the city of Atlanta. This whole ITP/OTP business is completely bogus.

Spot on. Metropolitan areas are one cultural, social, and economic unit. Doesn't mean a thing in the grand scheme. Shuffling jobs across one border or the other doesn't really matter as people in cities now work in cities, people in cities work in suburbs, people in suburbs work in cities, and people in suburbs work in other suburbs. People routinely cross border after border on a daily basis. As long as people continue to choose to take up the lifestyle that cities offer they will attract employment to sustain those people. I happen to believe that suburbs don't spell the end of cities.

[DawgPark]

Originally Posted by AtlantaIsHot

Spot on. Metropolitan areas are one cultural, social, and economic unit. Doesn't mean a thing in the grand scheme. Shuffling jobs across one border or the other doesn't really matter as people in cities now work in cities, people in cities work in suburbs, people in suburbs work in cities, and people in suburbs work in other suburbs. People routinely cross border after border on a daily basis. As long as people continue to choose to take up the lifestyle that cities offer they will attract employment to sustain those people. I happen to believe that suburbs don't spell the end of cities.

100% agree. Great post.

[netdragon]

Gas South is moving 90 jobs to the corporate headquarters in One Overton Park Cumberland, to consolidate their HQ there.

With the Atlanta Braves on the way, Gas South Expands and Extends Lease at One Overton Park | Chamber Ink

[RG1981]

Originally Posted by netdragon

I agree, it's so 90s.

I concur. I don't understand why people would move to GA to flaunt their status as hip new money urbanites...declaring oneself "ITP!" is pretty lame.

[GeorgiaLakeSearch]

Good for Cobb County. I was happy to see Coke move into CoA, so I have to give congrats to Cobb Co. I wonder if the hipsters in CoA who hate Cobb realize that many people who live in Buckhead work in Cobb Co.? Then again they also hate Buckhead. Do they realize without Buckhead CoA would be similar to Detroit?

[netdragon]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaLakeSearch

Do they realize without Buckhead CoA would be similar to Detroit?

You're going to get flack for that, but you're right. Lenox and Buckhead got nice well before midtown. I moved here in 2005 and it was still early enough to see midtown go through its transformation (at least for anything South of 10th street) along with many areas East of it, Ansley Park, Berkeley Park, etc. It's a lot more recent than people who are just moving here now may realize.

[jsvh]

Detroit is a great example of what happens when you embrace automobiles as the only transportation and over-tax city residents to build freeways to the suburbs. You drain the city tax base as everyone moves to the suburbs. Then you get a runaway effect and the core dies and the city cannot succeed without a strong core.

Cities have flourished for thousands of years without suburbs, and it is great for people to have those options today, but we got to stop taxing city residents to make life cheaper for suburbanites. Luckily Atlanta has been able to stop the bleeding. We had the freeway revolts that prevented many now booming in-town neighborhoods from being destroyed and business hubs in neighborhoods like midtown and Buckhead have maintained the tax base. Now that federal subsidies are being rolled back living in the city is making sense again and the city is making smart financial decisions to lean up its books. Many suburbs seem to be making the same mistake the city did 30 years ago. Thinking that government subsidies are needed to encourage businesses and using their tax dollars to make it easier for people to leave their tax base but still use their services.

[magnetar]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaLakeSearch

Good for Cobb County. I was happy to see Coke move into CoA, so I have to give congrats to Cobb Co. I wonder if the hipsters in CoA who hate Cobb realize that many people who live in Buckhead work in Cobb Co.? Then again they also hate Buckhead. Do they realize without Buckhead CoA would be similar to Detroit?

I love seeing people fight the "eastside hipster who hates rich people" strawman; that guy can't catch a break. Good thing I've never met him and have no evidence he actually exists.