09-10-2014, 09:02 AM
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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afdinatl
The same is in every other city. All cities have bad rappers. You see more bad rappers in Atlanta because you love in Atlanta
Bingo. People act like NYC or LA have never had a lame rapper. LOL
09-10-2014, 09:12 AM
Location: O4W
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Bingo. People act like NYC or LA have never had a lame rapper. LOL
lol
09-10-2014, 09:39 AM
Location: North Carolina for now....ATL soon.
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Listen, let's just give credit where credit is due. Yes, rap initially came out of New York, no one is arguing that fact. **applause applause** The documentary about Atlanta's presence in the rap game is just about that; the fact that it came to even have a presence. It was basically like wait, we have something to say too, and we have our own unique rap style and sound. I believe Outkast were the main pioneers (and the best) of the "Dirty South" sound in rap. Our culture and sound wasn't like New York's, and that was point. It wasn't an effort of imitation, but a call of attention to the difference, while also maintaining that difference was relevant.
I don't think Atlanta rappers emerged on the rap scene trying to BE what New York rappers were. For a long time New York was the rap mecca, and I think a lot of artists in the past felt in order to get into the rap game, they had to go by way of New York. And while that may have been true as far as available producers, and industry moguls, it was soon realized that they could carve out their own little incubator of talent and emerge successful still. And apparently, they were right. Atlanta is now a haven of talented producers, that many would be and established (rap as well as hip hop) artists flock to and work with. It's not about one replacing the other, but just about another.
Yes, there are good rappers, but then there are GREAT rappers that have come out of Atlanta, and continue to do so. And of course you have those that should find another career all together; who are putting out garbage lyrics. But like another poster pointed out, untalented rappers come out of every city. For that matter, there's bad singers that come out of everywhere in general in the music industry, it's just a matter of what you prefer.
I remember the days when rap meant something; when it had substance. When rappers talked about social and political issues, and rhymes were poetry carved from stories that were relevant without being necessarily angry all the time. They provoked thought, and called for you take a stand on any given issue. I think the 80's and early 90's were the height of good rap, and I'm not sure we'll witness that kind of commitment to what rap was meant to be at it's infancy again.
Now, it seems that this garbage rap is about that same tiring thing. Women, (and how much can we belittle and dismiss them), the obsession with money, the glorification of violence, (oh, and let's face it, they're all mad about something) partying, and the alcohol or drug of choice. Woooooooooow, how deep.
If you came from the ghetto, saw your father killed, had a mother on drugs, were abused, had to do some things you're ashamed of to survive, ain't nobody mad at you for that, but use your music as a vehicle to show how negativity become positive. Tell your story, but tell it UNTO how your experience has made you a better man, not a bitter man. If you still need healing, that's what therapy is for; or if you need to make peace with those that hurt you, then do so.
The rambling on of these empty, meaningless lyrics that give me nothing to take away, and leave wanting more. Yeah, I'm over it.
09-10-2014, 10:23 AM
Location: Atlanta
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Yes. Alot of people have already jumped to the conclusion that this documentary was made simply to give a pat on the back to all the present day or latest Atlanta rap artist and they do do a little of that at the end. But, the great majority of this documentary is dedicated to examining how the whole urban music scene evolved in Atlanta from day one. And Atlanta's Hip Hop history is long and rich. So many artist and so much talent in front of and behind the scenes influenced it as well as so many events. I wish they had done more on Kilo and the East Side Boys for instance. There's been a lot of great rappers in Atlanta's past that most people today (especially those not from Atlanta) don't even know about.
09-10-2014, 11:02 AM
Location: Vinings/Cumberland in the evil county of Cobb
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Atlanta rap is the new LA. Obviously it'll never get better than OG gangsta rap (Pac, Cube, Dre, Snoop, etc) but other than Biggie, IMO, most can stay in NY.
Hip hop mightve came out of the Bronx but Rap came from California.
Not speaking 100%'s, just most.
Jay-Z is cool and all.... but has nothing on Dre.
I'll watch the vid later. Thanks for sharing.
Wow dude...your lack of "hip-hop" knowledge is astounding. However I get why you can't appreciate real NYC hip-hop (especially old-school), I'm sure the Rakims, KRS-Ones, Big Daddy Kanes, Kool G Raps, Nas', Jay-Zs, Pharoahe Monchs, Mos Defs, Talib Kwelis, etc...talked to fast, slick and intelligently for you to follow. Good hip-hop music is about the poetry in the words and the flow. I find that most of today's rappers dumb-down their lyrics, and all there rhymes are extremely literal and therefore easier to digest by the "85s". Therefore it's not about "where you from", you have southern rappers from Outkast to T.I. to Young Jeezy to Jay Electronica who rhyme in the true spirit of hip-hop.
P.S. - for the record homey, Dre may be the dopest producer ever but he never writes/wrote his own raps. Actually Jay-Z has ghost written for him on many occasions.
09-10-2014, 12:18 PM
Location: Orange Blossom Trail
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I saw this the day it came out. They had a premier for it, but I didnt hear about that until I saw it on VH1, just happened to be watching at the right time it started. LOL a Mayor Reed rapping Sugarhill Gang. I can remember back in the 90s living in Florida and many of those BOOTYSHAKE (NOT Miami BASS) songs were being played down there. I always thought those guys like Raheem and Kilo were from Florida, cause they had that Bootyshake sound down. MOJO couldnt rap though. He seemed liked he was going for that Melle Mell Kurtis Blow sound but he wasnt very good. Who was the mixtape guy?? he was interesting. Did any of yall have one of his tapes? He seemed like a really cool dude.
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09-10-2014, 12:19 PM
Location: Orange Blossom Trail
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09-10-2014, 12:31 PM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Atlanta makes Pop and dance music
09-10-2014, 12:33 PM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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But we also have residents who write for a lot of the celebs who live in LA and other cities
09-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Location: Orange Blossom Trail
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I will watch this later, but I have a love hate thing with Atlanta rap/ hip hop.
There is SO MUCH STUPID coming out of rappers from Atlanta. Not all of them, but way too many scumbags with no talent and terrible beats rapping about S that has already been done time and time again. Not to mention the negative influence it has on some people is quantifiable.
Then you have Outkast. I really don't understand how Atlanta can produce the greatest rap group of all time, then continue to pump out the lowest hanging fruit of the rap genre. I don't get it.
Word man I feel ya, so glad this doc did feature Gucci Mann, Lil Scrappy, OJ the Juice and the rest of the garbage pail kids that Atlanta supports. It was just a time 94-2006 when Atlanta made some dope gems. Before Soulja Boy and MySpace. I think that may have been the turning point or maybe some of us are just getting OLD. You try to make an effort NOT to hate on something you dont like, but its just so easy to hate it. Im a huge hip hop fan from NY to Compton to Houston to ATL. For the record a lot of the new Westcoast stuff is lame too. In this doc they kinda dont really cover the post Souljaboy weasel rap that really blew up after 2007 that was a high light in my opinion.
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People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)