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Old 02-25-2015, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Honestly I am not worried.

The same can be said of income taxes or property taxes.
Until the housing bust, property taxes have remained stable. Incomes do not drop unless a lot of people lose their jobs.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Obviously I only know as much about you as you stated but if taxes are concern enough to lose employees you aren't that high of an earner. And while any job is great, a couple dozen in a metro area of 5.5 million is tiny.
Obviously you don't. You are correct. And your job would not seem so tiny were you to lose it. Sarcasm is not at all amusing when it comes to someone's livelihood.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Is this taught in Social Justice Warrior 101?
By all means, GLS, don't listen to anyone who has a different opinion than you do. That would risk seeing issues from a new perspective, and we wouldn't want that, now, would we?
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Old 02-25-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Obviously you don't. You are correct. And your job would not seem so tiny were you to lose it. Sarcasm is not at all amusing when it comes to someone's livelihood.
Where's my sarcasm? Obviously a job is important to individuals. I hated it when my mom lost her job right as I started my freshman year in college. Hated it when my dad got laid off 10 years ago. But in the grand scheme of things what do you hear more about? "Local company adds 2 workers" or "Major car maker moves HQ to Atlanta"? Obviously for the people getting the jobs it doesn't matter but for the overall job market the addition of a major player and several hundred jobs looks much better. Anyway my comment was just that you aren't near the highest earners and aren't subject to the highest taxes anyway. The upper echelon tax cuts (or potential increases) won't impact you nearly as much as the CEO of Mercedes. And that's what lawmakers care about like it or not. Mercedes was offered 23 million in incentives. Willing to bet you didn't get that much from the state.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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In the very first sentence of the article they tell you that they are using the top 40% of the wage earners. That is not rich people. That includes households like two school teachers, senior police officers, and so on.
The title of the article should be "The people who have decent jobs pay more of the taxes, and we want to reduce taxes for the very rich, and ordinary people can make up the difference with sales tax."


This is one of the ways that the stooges of the rich lie to you. By including ordinary hard working people in the group, they are trying to fool you into thinking that you will benefit from the tax code changes.
They wil benefit. You wil not.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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This, this, and this. Woohoo, more handouts to those who least need them.
Exactly!
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Old 02-26-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Savannah
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It helps the high earners, which are a small subset of the rich. And, the high earners do generally pay more. But, as for the "rich" - I don't think they have an obligation to "pay more." Generally, it is the rich who create jobs to employee the non-rich. So they pay through their investments.
You are free to vote against your own economic interests, and that of basically everyone here. Just don't have any illusion you are helping yourself or anyone else here, just that of the 0.1%. In my view, they most certainly do have a moral obligation. And a patriotic one. And of course a Christian obligation unless they completely misinterpreted Christ's teachings. People don't work for hospitals, fire departments, and and schools for free. If we had more social spending it would literally save lives, and of course improve them all as well. That is a little bit more important than the super-rich being able to buy that 10th mansion on an island somewhere. I am not saying we need to not allow millionaires or even billionaires, far from it. But if we raised their rates back to the 1950s (what Republicans think of as our wonder years, right? the good ol' days, no?) I would be more than happy. I also believe in capitalism, with relatively moderate guidance. Then the Rich can settle for 8 houses, instead of 10. Good enough, yes?
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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You are free to vote against your own economic interests, and that of basically everyone here. Just don't have any illusion you are helping yourself or anyone else here, just that of the 0.1%. In my view, they most certainly do have a moral obligation. And a patriotic one. And of course a Christian obligation unless they completely misinterpreted Christ's teachings. People don't work for hospitals, fire departments, and and schools for free. If we had more social spending it would literally save lives, and of course improve them all as well. That is a little bit more important than the super-rich being able to buy that 10th mansion on an island somewhere. I am not saying we need to not allow millionaires or even billionaires, far from it. But if we raised their rates back to the 1950s (what Republicans think of as our wonder years, right? the good ol' days, no?) I would be more than happy. I also believe in capitalism, with relatively moderate guidance. Then the Rich can settle for 8 houses, instead of 10. Good enough, yes?

Free tip: you'll see the world much more clearly when you drop all the labels and stop looking at extremes. They simply don't exist for even 0.1%. What you describe as your image of "rich" is more like 0.00000001% and some brain-dead extremism.

I do business with several people who have earned wealth over $100 million, and not one of them has more than a primary residence and 1 vacation home. They didn't acquire their wealth by being stupid or frivolous or greedy. They got it from 40-50 years of hard work, being incredibly smart, and by improving the lives of those they did business with. And by and large, they are the most generous and grateful people I know.

Try reading more "The Millionaire Next Door" and learn about the true wealth in this country. What you see on TV or in political blogs just isn't reality for 99% of people you call "rich".
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