04-06-2015, 09:39 AM
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Opening day is here but I feel like a child whose candy has been taken away.......Heywood and J-Upt was bad but now losing the Killer Kimbrel one day before the season opener....gotta say I'm pretty devastated.
04-06-2015, 09:41 AM
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I have given up on the Braves for good.
04-06-2015, 09:50 AM
Location: NW Atlanta
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Having low expectations for this year is quite cathartic honestly.
04-06-2015, 09:53 AM
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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My hope is the powers that be know what they are doing. Really looks like a lame brained decision for the present... but if it is truly laying the foundation for the Braves to return to their 90s heydays, then I'll take a rebuilding season. Better than puttering along at a mediocre level year after year after year.
04-06-2015, 09:57 AM
Location: East Atlanta
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I was already expecting to be low-middle of the pack, but this move puts us in the cellar as far as I'm concerned. I know Kimbrel was a huge tradeable asset that would net us a lot in return (which we only got two prospects, a draft pick, and an outfielder who's injured more than he plays, in addition to having to pay Carlos Quentin $8 million just to designate him for assignment) but here's what I don't get: We've been told ever since the stadium deal that the new revenue stream it created would help us to sign guys long-term and attract free agents. We extended five core guys we wanted to be there for the move to Cobb and keep us competitive while we did a soft rebuild, similar to what the Hawks just did. Heyward for two years, Kimbrel, Freeman, Simmons, and Teheran for long-term deals. If the stadium deal was supposedly a means to stay competitive in the short and long term, and to replace the lost revenue from being stuck in that crappy TV deal for the next ten years, then why have we just traded two of the five guys we were trying to build around? And does that mean Freeman, Simmons, and Teheran are next? The price for getting rid of BJ's contract couldn't possibly have gone from giving away Evan Gattis to giving away a future Hall of Fame candidate in Craig Kimbrel in just three months. I find that to be ridiculous. I think Liberty Media is slicing payroll because they just got the news from Forbes that their asset, the Atlanta Braves, is now valued at over a billion dollars, and they are considering cashing out. Ever since the Donald Sterling incident and subsequent Steve Ballmer purchase of the Clippers for $1.2 billion MORE than they were worth, every sports franchise is currently in a value bubble, and more and more owners are looking to cash out every day, knowing full well it won't last. Liberty Media sees what the Clippers got, and what the Nets and Hawks are about to get, and they are trying to take all the money they can out of the franchise before selling it off at almost a 500% profit. Expect more payroll to be cut. Corporate ownership is such a drag. The only plus side to my theory is that it would conclude with Atlanta fans being rid of both Atlanta Spirit Group and Liberty Media. Hopefully we get some owners that care about the product on the field.
04-06-2015, 10:05 AM
Location: Georgia
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Saintmarks
My hope is the powers that be know what they are doing. Really looks like a lame brained decision for the present... but if it is truly laying the foundation for the Braves to return to their 90s heydays, then I'll take a rebuilding season. Better than puttering along at a mediocre level year after year after year.
This. I have been emotionally upset about nearly every single offseason move they've made, but eventually I always come back to reality: the Braves have NOT won a playoff series since 2001!!! It's not like we're breaking up the 90s braves. Honestly they should have started doing this 4 or 5 years ago.
I've given up hope for this season long ago, but it does look like we'll be good again in 2 or 3 years once our newly acquired youngins in the farm system start panning out. Plus we'll have LOADS of money to spend. And hopefully get rid of Fredi Gonzalez.
04-06-2015, 10:14 AM
Location: East Atlanta
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Sorry for such a long-winded response, but honestly, I'm just really pissed off right now.
04-06-2015, 10:21 AM
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Sorry for such a long-winded response, but honestly, I'm just really pissed off right now.
No need to apologize...I'm with you HH
04-06-2015, 10:28 AM
Location: Kirkwood
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My hope is the powers that be know what they are doing. Really looks like a lame brained decision for the present... but if it is truly laying the foundation for the Braves to return to their 90s heydays, then I'll take a rebuilding season. Better than puttering along at a mediocre level year after year after year.
The heydays of winning 1 WS in that span, while another team in the same division, which never won the division, won 2 WS?
I gave up on them after 'the announcement.'
04-06-2015, 10:53 AM
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Let's go HAWKS!
As for the Braves...eh...2016?
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Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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