02-16-2016, 10:47 AM
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To be fair with the high speed rail, it's not like there are two fast growing 6+ million person metros in the state of Georgia. This comes back to the point I was making earlier. Dallas and Houston have the advantage over Atlanta of being in a more dynamic state.
I hate to be mean about it and further prove the point you and Bu2 make, but it's true. Georgia pretty much sucks outside of Atlanta and Savannah. It does. Savannah is the only city that actually has higher percentage job growth than Atlanta does. Just about every other metro underperforms.
And why does Atlanta have to have an affinity for rural culture to succeed? It's funny because it still doesn't stop people from calling Dallas boring(which it is because I was just there back in July). I think Atlanta has a lot more culture than Dallas does. The cowboy culture is incredibly overrated.
Not in the slightest because the vast majority of this country is very ignorant of it. I also don't find Dallas boring. Maybe if you got out of the car and explored the area, you wouldn't have come to that conclusion.
03-27-2016, 01:19 PM
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Here's an update.
I expect Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA to move up to the 7th spot next year for the 2016 lists and rankings. Then by Census 2020, Atlanta should be moving into the 8th spot, as noted earlier it is confirmed the Atlanta area is beginning an acceleration year-over-year.
That bodes well for its rankings to move up relatively fast:
03-27-2016, 08:06 PM
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Like someone said, it all goes back to the Texas pride and culture that all of it's cities share.
I think Texas has great cities, but that Texas identity thing would get a little old for me after a while. For example, it seems like almost every TV station in the state has the Texas star in its logo.
03-28-2016, 12:00 AM
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Yep; there's just not much that's distinct about Georgia culture as a whole.
a lot of what runs the economy in the cities here depends (or once depended) on the land - the oil wealth built these cities to what they are today. dallas and houston ARE texan through and through.
atlanta is mostly its own thing and it's become what it is mostly on its own, in spite of the state its in. (as nice as parts of GA are outside the city)
03-28-2016, 10:33 AM
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Now this is just getting very very very funny
Do you want me to go outside and take a picture of Texas right now? I litteally have dozen of cousins, aunt, uncles in Texas. In fact General family is mail divide Texas, Georgia, Mississippi and Chicago. I spent about half life in Texas, Graduated in Texas, Your not speaking to a random dude, I rep Texas which is again why it's in my username.
But I have a lot of questions right now yall don't have to answer.
Are yall white and listen to country?
Are yall over 40 and 50 hang out with a less diverse demographic of people? Again yall don't have to Answer.
Did you actually grow up around a diverse background but how many people of minority background did or have you ever known?
Didn't notice your response until just now. Yes, I'm "white" and old. I almost never listen to country music. I personally don't have a cowboy hat and boots, but make sure I always have at least one western shirt. I wonder if you hang out with a diverse group or just a bunch of your Black friends. In addition to Dallas and Austin I lived in San Antonio and Houston where it would be impossible to isolate yourself from diversity if you tried. So yes, I know tons of minorities, including my grandfather whose first language was Spanish and always spoke with a thick accent.
Also the Stuff yall mention are going to specific events that not surprising it's like going to a club and being surprise you saw a girl in short shorts. You freakin went to a rodeo itself your not going to see cowboy hats and boots normally walking around the mall.
Well I don't recall cowboy hats and boots in Northpark Mall, but saw them plenty in less pretentious malls.
Yes the Cowboy stuff is predominantly white and the main people who like it are into country music yall can't even admit that where are we even going with this? No minorities are not into the Cowboy that much you probably have more black Republicans in Texas than Blacks into the Cowboy stuff. I never said no minorities are into it and I agree with spade but it's pretty much overwhelming predominantly white thing.
See plenty of Hispanics with cowboy hats and boots. Maybe few Blacks are into it, but unlike Georgia, that's only 10% of the population, so its a relatively small sub-group.
As far Pride that's a straw man I said Texas has a lot of pride I rep Texas hard but it isn't center around no dang cowboy stuff wtf. And someone visiting the Alamo doesn't mean they into cowboy stuff. It's a public monument. First off a lot of younger people are not into history and stuff. Not just Texas but anywhere. So they can care less about what they learn in History just being real.
Yall was saying Transplants in general come to Texas and become into the rural culture........... no. They like they're cities or what ever but they don't care about rural Texas.
But Texas is so diverse and people are into so many things you can't put it in a box.
As for the rest, we will just have to agree to disagree.
03-28-2016, 10:38 AM
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a lot of what runs the economy in the cities here depends (or once depended) on the land - the oil wealth built these cities to what they are today. dallas and houston ARE texan through and through.
atlanta is mostly its own thing and it's become what it is mostly on its own, in spite of the state its in. (as nice as parts of GA are outside the city)
Atlanta has a remarkably diverse economy. It doesn't have as much agricultural related industries as you would think, given the productivity of South Georgia with the peaches, pecans, onions and cotton. The railroads were originally driven by that, but now its seems like its Atlanta's central location that makes it a distribution point for the entire southeast for a wide variety of products.
03-28-2016, 12:20 PM
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Yes the Cowboy stuff is predominantly white and the main people who like it are into country music yall can't even admit that where are we even going with this? No minorities are not into the Cowboy that much you probably have more black Republicans in Texas than Blacks into the Cowboy stuff. I never said no minorities are into it and I agree with spade but it's pretty much overwhelming predominantly white thing.
I agree with all your qualifications here, and I'm sure you know this, but black cowboys have a long tradition in Texas.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/arb01
That legacy continues, though no doubt more in rural areas. My brother and I were the only white members of an otherwise all-black horse club that toured parades and rodeos every summer throughout southwest Oklahoma and North Texas in the late 60s and 70s. That seems like a lifetime and a world away now, but I don't think it's died out yet.
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03-28-2016, 04:00 PM
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I agree with all your qualifications here, and I'm sure you know this, but black cowboys have a long tradition in Texas.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/arb01
That legacy continues, though no doubt more in rural areas. My brother and I were the only white members of an otherwise all-black horse club that toured parades and rodeos every summer throughout southwest Oklahoma and North Texas in the late 60s and 70s. That seems like a lifetime and a world away now, but I don't think it's died out yet.
Austin
There's a picture on the 2nd page-couldn't tell which of the trail rides it was.
https://houstonhistorymagazine.org/w...des-Valdes.pdf
03-28-2016, 09:55 PM
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Here's an update.
I expect Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA to move up to the 7th spot next year for the 2016 lists and rankings. Then by Census 2020, Atlanta should be moving into the 8th spot, as noted earlier it is confirmed the Atlanta area is beginning an acceleration year-over-year.
That bodes well for its rankings to move up relatively fast:
I wonder which one of these metro's are being over-counted, my bet is on Miami.
03-28-2016, 11:50 PM
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I agree with all your qualifications here, and I'm sure you know this, but black cowboys have a long tradition in Texas.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/arb01
That legacy continues, though no doubt more in rural areas. My brother and I were the only white members of an otherwise all-black horse club that toured parades and rodeos every summer throughout southwest Oklahoma and North Texas in the late 60s and 70s. That seems like a lifetime and a world away now, but I don't think it's died out yet.
Austin
I never said there wasn't any black cowboys historically I was saying modernly and it's out the normal. It's an small segment compared to the relative population. What spark this debate is when a posters started to claim transplants to Texas embrace the history of Texas and country more than transplants do with Georgia and southern culture. And that's false. Also my post isn't anti cowboy stuff I'm not trying to be that. but my point was DFW and Houston are no more less or pro country than ATL. If anything they probably more cosmopolitan. Buford Hwy on a larger scale.
Let me flip the scenario
Banjo
The Banjo instrument actually come from West Africa. Historically it was associate with the Blues. But even more with Blues Grass music. Historically Blacks also liked Blue grass music. But how popular do you think Blues Grass and The Banjo is to younger Blacks under 40 who grew up listening to Hip Hop, R&B, even Black gospel. Maybe Rock, reggae, EDM and etc. It's not very popular.
There are over 800,000 Blacks in DFW. can find you find Blacks in cowboy stuff maybe, likely no. Yall posting these stuff is the exception not the commonality.
I just google polar bear car , randomly and look I found dozens of pictures of polar bears near cars. Posters posting pictures of Black Cowboys stuff like that's common for Black people to be into that.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/...08_634x395.jpg
The argument was DFW transplants generally come to DFW and embrace cowboy come stuff that just false. I never said it doesn't exist but it like saying Georgian and Atlanta into country stuff.
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Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)