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Old 03-11-2008, 02:26 PM
 
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I say rural areas aren't that much safer.
I agree rural areas have hidden agendas similar to Jena 6 until something happens noone knows a thing!
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Amen! I agree 100% people just want others to sweep it under the rug. If the shoe was on their foot they would not feel the way they do now!
Racism is only one symptom of bigotry. There are plenty of other reasons for a person to be a bigot, and all of them are unacceptable IMhO...
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:24 PM
 
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I agree rural areas have hidden agendas similar to Jena 6 until something happens noone knows a thing!
I just disagree with rural areas being safer because most of the places I have ever been the victim of a crime in has been in rural or suburban areas. I am speaking from my own experience. When I was almost 12 years old some teenager idiot shot me in the side with a paintball gun. While it wasn't fatal, it was scary and had I been shot in the head, my own death could have been. He wasn't playing a game either. My house was vandalized as well. All of this in Paulding County in the late 1990's. Later on people in my subdivision that I knew were dealing with burglaries. Rural doesn't mean safer.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:25 PM
 
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Racism is only one symptom of bigotry. There are plenty of other reasons for a person to be a bigot, and all of them are unacceptable IMhO...
rcsteiner, very good point.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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rcsteiner, very good point.
Rev. Wright????
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:08 PM
 
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Rev. Wright????
No, I'm not Rev. Wright.
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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You're right, it is not "diverse" which brings decay, it is the economic aspect. However, there are lots of things one can research with regard to race and intelligence, race and crime, etc. to get the overall trend. These trends exist worldwide. It is part of the reason why sub-saharan Africa is impoverished and Europe is not.

In Detroit, over half of the workers were white, yet in Detroit, the city is now 82% black, and the white fled to the suburbs. I don't see the whites in the Detroit suburbs being impoverished. If it were merely about jobs leaving, and considering that most of those jobs hired more whites than blacks, then you'd find the same thing happening in the white community. That is not the case. Why? Do some research.
I had to respond to this. I do tend to agree with you about the correlation between black population and crime, however I believe the reasons are different than you do. Whatever, I could care less if we agree. However, I would like to point out that you're comment about sub-saharan Africa is completely wrong. Not only has scientific racism (aka the bs you mention about there being worldwide trends about race-intelligence) been completely disproven, but sub-Saharan Africa is the way it is because it continues to be exploited by the remainder of the world.

I suggest you take your own advice and "do some research", as you will find that it has been well documented why Africa sucks.

1. the French and Dutch trading companies raped and pillaged

2. the U.S' promise to give financial aid during the Soviet crisis which led many African nations to accrue massive debt only to have the US never come through b/c we worked out our problems with Russia and then abandoned Africa

3. diamonds are still exclusively controlled by corporations

4. The deforestation of the continent has made it increasingly difficult to cultivate food due to soil erosion b/c there are no roots from trees to keep the soil there.

5. 300 million of Africa's strongest/most able/maybe even smartest were kidnapped into slavery and taken overseas (Hello? Take that % of ANY country's residents and imagine what that place what be like)
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:02 PM
 
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I agree rural areas have hidden agendas similar to Jena 6 until something happens noone knows a thing!
You mean like six thugs kicking one innocent white boy in the head, nearly beating him to death as he lay unconscious?
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Asheville NC
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I've seen various people post on here and on the other forums about how disappointed they are that a particular city,town or area wasn't that diverse. Now I think diversity is a good thing but I wonder if too many people over emphasize it sometimes? It seems like some people want to hold it against a town or city because they lack diversity. People need to realize that it's not possible for every town,city or state in America to have the perfect mix of diversity that they think they should have.
The self-appointed "diversity" hall monitors of the world will criticize any town/state/region that doesn't conform to their perception of percentages of the larger area. However, demanding a specified distribution (for example, 12 percent black, 11 percent Hispanic, 4 percent Asian) isn't promoting true diversity; it's promoting uniformity. One reason I like to travel so much within my own country is that I get to experience variety in foods, scenery, political opinions, choices in entertainment and recreation, and yes, even racial/ethnic distributions.

If you have evidence that a business practice or local government has limited someone's ability to live somewhere based on race, speak up. Otherwise, stop patting yourself on the back so hard for your more-tolerant-than-thou attitude. You might hurt yourself.
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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I had to respond to this. I do tend to agree with you about the correlation between black population and crime, however I believe the reasons are different than you do. Whatever, I could care less if we agree. However, I would like to point out that you're comment about sub-saharan Africa is completely wrong. Not only has scientific racism (aka the bs you mention about there being worldwide trends about race-intelligence) been completely disproven, but sub-Saharan Africa is the way it is because it continues to be exploited by the remainder of the world.
Verifiable DATA that disproves it? I'd like to see REAL links, publications, etc.

Sociologists (socialists) have claimed it has been disproven, but anyone can make up stuff.

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I suggest you take your own advice and "do some research", as you will find that it has been well documented why Africa sucks.
Give me a break. Common Sense dictates that there are differences. Some people in Africa are cannibalistic for crying out loud.

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1. the French and Dutch trading companies raped and pillaged
...and how long has it been since this occurred?

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2. the U.S' promise to give financial aid during the Soviet crisis which led many African nations to accrue massive debt only to have the US never come through b/c we worked out our problems with Russia and then abandoned Africa
So African nations cannot make it on their own? They need a handout? What does that say about the many African nations, when none of them are successful? The answer is easier than you think.

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3. diamonds are still exclusively controlled by corporations
Most African nations do not have diamonds. Most are found in South Africa and extreme southwestern Africa. South Africa was more successful under apartheid, and now it is falling apart. Why? I mean, DeBeers is still based there.

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4. The deforestation of the continent has made it increasingly difficult to cultivate food due to soil erosion b/c there are no roots from trees to keep the soil there.
Nonsense. The African rainforests have experienced much less deforestation than the South American and Indonesian rainforests. The Democratic Republic of the Congo has lost less than five percent of its rainforests.

The soil is not good for cultivating food, period. This doesn't stop Iceland from being a first world nation. Why?

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5. 300 million of Africa's strongest/most able/maybe even smartest were kidnapped into slavery and taken overseas (Hello? Take that % of ANY country's residents and imagine what that place what be like)
Hmm, if I remember correct, if those people aren't here (now in the U.S. and elsewhere in the new world), wouldn't the lines of people still be there. After all, most weren't brought to the new world? Are you telling me that after one hundred years of African slavery that they are all stupid, that they are no longer capable of anything innovative?

Slavery still exists in parts of Africa, too, and the Africans themselves were responsible for the slave trade, too.
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