07-27-2015, 11:56 PM
Location: Atlanta
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Hell, what they COULD do, is get a couple of the casinos prime city tax breaks for a bit of time if they fund aspects of the Green Line plan, and the above-ground sections of the MMPT. That includes the bus bays, the parks, and the ground level concourse mall.
Your mere mention of the Green Line gives you mucho credibility with me. So many aren't even aware of it. I love your thoughts on all of this, big time.
I sincerely wish you had input with the alphabet soup of decision makers involved.
07-28-2015, 06:48 AM
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Have you seen the GSU plan for the Turner Field area? I hope we see that happen...it looks pretty good.
I would like to see a casino in East Cobb or Alpharetta - see how they like it in those parts.
Just kidding. I think we have to be very careful plopping a casino down anywhere to make sure it benefits the area. Maybe look at some of the downtown casinos in other cities and see how those have affected the surrounding neighborhoods.
Had to chuckle about a casino in East Cobb. The Six Flags area is probably the only place it could possibly go in Cobb, but even so there would be plenty of resistance. Downtown just makes the most sense for a gleaming glitzy casino.
07-28-2015, 07:08 AM
Location: Kirkwood
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Had to chuckle about a casino in East Cobb. The Six Flags area is probably the only place it could possibly go in Cobb, but even so there would be plenty of resistance. Downtown just makes the most sense for a gleaming glitzy casino.
Why is Cobb County off limits? MGM wants to put a casino in Atlanta's central business district, why is Cobb County's central business district (Cumberland) off limits? Why is South Cobb, an economically depressed area of the county the only place a casino could go? It appears there are double standards on this casino placement.
07-28-2015, 07:49 AM
Location: Vinings/Cumberland in the evil county of Cobb
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Why is Cobb County off limits? MGM wants to put a casino in Atlanta's central business district, why is Cobb County's central business district (Cumberland) off limits? Why is South Cobb, an economically depressed area of the county the only place a casino could go? It appears there are double standards on this casino placement.
I personally would welcome a casino in The Gulch primarily to (hopefully) to jump-start the MMPT. Transformational type projects seem to take way too long to get done down here in Georgia. Also something needs to be done to fill in the gaps downtown. A Vegas-style MGM casino in The Gulch along with the current plans transforming the Underground to a residential area could would be great for Atlanta. Actually would mind A Vegas-style MGM casino in Cumberland either, but that would cause another ITP vs OTP uproar. As I mentioned in other post, the state of Georgia without the city of Atlanta, would be Mississippi so it would be in the interest of the entire state to support a revitalization of Downtown Atlanta.
(disclaimer - The state of Mississippi is a wonderful state, and it's residents are a shining example to the world of what this great nation has to offer)
07-28-2015, 07:59 AM
Location: In your feelings
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As I mentioned in other post, the state of Georgia without the city of Atlanta, would be Mississippi so it would be in the interest of the entire state to support a revitalization of Downtown Atlanta.
Which is why I don't see the appeal of casinos—Atlanta is a real city, why would we resort to the same desperate measures that Missisippi and Detroit and Atlantic City did when they had few other options? They desperately needed to try something to stimulate economic development, so they built casinos. Atlanta doesn't, and shouldn't.
07-28-2015, 08:05 AM
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Which is why I don't see the appeal of casinos—Atlanta is a real city, why would we resort to the same desperate measures that Missisippi and Detroit and Atlantic City did when they had few other options? They desperately needed to try something to stimulate economic development, so they built casinos. Atlanta doesn't, and shouldn't.
I agree and more importantly, why not build it in Midtown? Downtown seems like a logical place, only because it's the path of least resistance. If this was an overall of development centered around revitalizing Downtown I'd be more inclined to accept it. However this is a 1 billion dollar pitch with ZERO plans for making Downtown a neighborhood. If it comes with 10k units of residential units, a grocery store, major retailers locating on Peachtree street store fronts, MMPT, and the casino is the last piece built, bring it on.
07-28-2015, 08:35 AM
Location: O4W
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07-28-2015, 09:36 AM
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Which is why I don't see the appeal of casinos—Atlanta is a real city, why would we resort to the same desperate measures that Missisippi and Detroit and Atlantic City did when they had few other options? They desperately needed to try something to stimulate economic development, so they built casinos. Atlanta doesn't, and shouldn't.
Although Atlanta on a whole is not desperate for development, downtown and south downtown are pretty close.
07-28-2015, 09:40 AM
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I agree and more importantly, why not build it in Midtown? Downtown seems like a logical place, only because it's the path of least resistance. If this was an overall of development centered around revitalizing Downtown I'd be more inclined to accept it. However this is a 1 billion dollar pitch with ZERO plans for making Downtown a neighborhood. If it comes with 10k units of residential units, a grocery store, major retailers locating on Peachtree street store fronts, MMPT, and the casino is the last piece built, bring it on.
Agreed regarding an overall development. I say downtown in The Gulch so it can somehow be connected (not physically) to the new gazillion dollar football stadium, the newly renovated Phipps Arena, the new development at the Underground and hopefully kick start the proposed MMPT.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Just kidding. I think we have to be very careful plopping a casino down anywhere to make sure it benefits the area. Maybe look at some of the downtown casinos in other cities and see how those have affected the surrounding neighborhoods.
