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Old 05-18-2016, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Primal, you talk about only wanting what's best for the service and mobility of the metro, and that's commendable, but what happens when we allow the governance to change? I very much doubt we'll have the same level of service here in the core. Given the nature of transit as a social service, handing control of it over to fiscal conservatives and business leaders to not only influence, but control could very well spell death to a LOT of the services.
It all just depends on how things were re-organized, and how much local control of the transit services in each MARTA jurisdiction would be retained, with the City of Atlanta being one such jurisdiction. The whole thing would need to be a big negotiation process. The end result might be that Cobb would be able to get its Cobb County style and flavor, but DeKalb would still be able to keep their flavor. But we'll have to see.

As far as transit services to the poor areas of town, those won't necessarily get cancelled or forgotten, since they do have consistently high ridership because of transit dependence, and can qualify for federal funds.

Anyway, a regional commuter rail system would have stops in South Atlanta, South Fulton, South Cobb, Clayton County, possibly Stone Mountain, so, to be fair it would be serving plenty of African-American areas.

Hell, Norcross and Lilburn are majority-minority communities with plenty of low-income areas.

Let's not forget that over the long-term trend, "the core", and most of ITP is getting whiter, and wealthier. Eventually, decades from now, the areas that will be most dependent on MARTA will be communities that MARTA does not currently even serve today. If the gentrification and "reverse flight" trends continue.
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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Commentary: Dallas Trip Inspires Look At Atlanta

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The last time the LINK delegation visited Dallas in 1999, the booming Texas town had just begun building its light rail system – DART. At the time, it had about 20 miles of track in the ground. By comparison, MARTA – Atlanta’s heavy rail system – was nearing 48 miles.

In less than 20 years, DART has 90 miles of rail in its system while MARTA remains stagnant. But our system does carry twice the number of passengers daily.

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After seeing the Plano model, Johns Creek Mayor Mike Bodker said the introduction of DART didn't ruin the community, it enhanced it.
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I find it funny how it look a lot of these suburban area leaders going to Dallas and seeing DART to recgonize the advantages of transit, when MARTA's HRT is faster, higher capacity, and easily expandable (compared to starting new technology). Why didn't they just look at how MARTA has helped to transform Perimeter Center?
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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I find it funny how it look a lot of these suburban area leaders going to Dallas and seeing DART to recgonize the advantages of transit, when MARTA's HRT is faster, higher capacity, and easily expandable (compared to starting new technology). Why didn't they just look at how MARTA has helped to transform Perimeter Center?
Idiots. Why the hell would they spend money to visit a city with light rail when they could have visited Chicago, DC or NYC with heavy rail
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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I find it funny how it look a lot of these suburban area leaders going to Dallas and seeing DART to recgonize the advantages of transit, when MARTA's HRT is faster, higher capacity, and easily expandable (compared to starting new technology). Why didn't they just look at how MARTA has helped to transform Perimeter Center?
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Idiots. Why the hell would they spend money to visit a city with light rail when they could have visited Chicago, DC or NYC with heavy rail
Why turn down a free trip?
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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At the city hall meeting on the transportation bill
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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At the city hall meeting on the transportation bill
Nice. Keep us updated.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Idiots. Why the hell would they spend money to visit a city with light rail when they could have visited Chicago, DC or NYC with heavy rail
Well, I imagine that it is because Atlanta is much more like Dallas than it is those three cities. And besides, DC's rail is a federally funded system unlike MARTA.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:49 AM
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Idiots. Why the hell would they spend money to visit a city with light rail when they could have visited Chicago, DC or NYC with heavy rail
Well because Chicago, DC and NYC aren't like Atlanta at all.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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Well because Chicago, DC and NYC aren't like Atlanta at all.
Nobody never said it was it and that wasnt the point. That's like saying New Orleans shouldn't visit LA to get info on the tax breaks for the movie industry because LA isn't like New Orleans

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