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Old 09-08-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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Lawmakers look at ways to preserve HOPE Scholarship | www.wsbtv.com
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:44 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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No, But there is a forecasted funding shortfall, Changes will need to be made to it.

Less money per Scholarship, Tighter Requirements, or find additional Income.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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Due to the wording of the law, the lawmakers were never able to touch the money directly. When the fiscal crisis hit back in 2008 there was a end around to get to the money in order to balance the budget without raising taxes. The republican controlled assembly and the Gov. Sonny Perdue cut funding to the University system to the tune of a 600 million dollars which resulted in the System having to raise tuition and fees to balance the budget. Since this happened Hope awards have increased by $200 million dollars per year while enrollment has remained steady, combined with a cut in lottery revenue and you see why there are now problems.

When you multiple 600 million * 7 you have 4.2 billion...

State education funding on decline since 2001, reports say | Online Athens
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:42 PM
 
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No need to eliminate it. Just tie some minimum test score to get college benefits. If you don't get a 1050, you aren't minimum college material. From 900-1050, you get vo-tech training paid for. Anything below that, you get a special helmet to wear and a greyhound bus ticket to Mississippi where you'll fit in.

Do that and tie the benefits to the degree. You want to study something worthless in the marketplace with a bad ROI, then you get 50% benefits. You want to go down the STEM path, you get 100%.

Problems solved.

-DirkMcGirt out
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:07 AM
 
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No need to eliminate it. Just tie some minimum test score to get college benefits. If you don't get a 1050, you aren't minimum college material. From 900-1050, you get vo-tech training paid for. Anything below that, you get a special helmet to wear and a greyhound bus ticket to Mississippi where you'll fit in.

Do that and tie the benefits to the degree. You want to study something worthless in the marketplace with a bad ROI, then you get 50% benefits. You want to go down the STEM path, you get 100%.

Problems solved.

-DirkMcGirt out
That was never the intent of the scholarship, it opened the door to college for a lot of first time college students who would have never gone to college to start with. For the students you are talking about above Hope also covered technical college in full, which led to a lot of students walking out into a lower middle class job from families that had never been above the poverty line before.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:09 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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They ought to look into how many students lose the scholarship after their first year due to failing to attain a 3.0 GPA, since that never seems to be discussed.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Kids, whose parents make over a certain amount per year do not need the HOPE and therefore it should be for those that need it to pay for college.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:47 AM
 
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Didn't they already add new rigor requirements, which mean kids need to have taken and passed advanced content, AP or college courses to qualify for Hope?
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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That was never the intent of the scholarship, it opened the door to college for a lot of first time college students who would have never gone to college to start with. For the students you are talking about above Hope also covered technical college in full, which led to a lot of students walking out into a lower middle class job from families that had never been above the poverty line before.
Technical college should be encouraged for those with less than a 1050 SAT. That should be a minimum threshold for higher education. If you can't pull that off, you probably don't have the intellect to contribute anything meaningful in college. Instead of pushing everyone to to go college and get worthless liberal arts degrees, push them into something that could lead to sustainable wages. It is the taxpayers money, use it smartly, and not as an Oprah "YOU ARE GOING TO COLLEGE! YOU ARE GOING TO COLLEGE! EVERYONE IS GOING TO COLLEGE!" event.

-DMG out
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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Kids, whose parents make over a certain amount per year do not need the HOPE and therefore it should be for those that need it to pay for college.
Nah. Give the money to those who are likely to excel in college (the high academic achievers). Invest in those who will contribute something to society. This shouldn't become another redistribute benefits to the poor, stupid and/or lazy program. Invest in winners regardless of their economic standing.
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