Sandy Springs proposes Monorail Plan (Atlanta, Roswell: apartment, movers, utilities)

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by jero23

Do you know the history of why Sandy Springs exists?

Yes, and not the "they didn't want to be annexed by the city of Atlanta because they hate black people" version.

[jero23]

Originally Posted by Gulch

Yes, and not the "they didn't want to be annexed by the city of Atlanta because they hate black people" version.

If you say so...it's more to that story but they won't admit that publicly...

[David1502]

Originally Posted by jero23

Another unrealistic (and impractical) idea by another neophytic municipality (that should have never been formed) that has zero chance of being implemented. There is zero support for this even if their officials talked to Atlanta Regional Commission (ARC) and GDOT. They can only hope, and I mean hope, for a private entity whom would want to fund this. There's nothing to see here...

FYI: The City of Sandy Springs was created by a referendum on June 21, 2005 in which 94% of the voters voted for incorporation as a city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Springs,_Georgia


Based on the enthusiastic support of the residents of Sandy Springs to form their own municipality, how can you say that it never should have been formed in the first place. Don't you think that those who live there should decide what form of government they will have?


Or, do you as several others on this forum think that the City of Atlanta should be able to forcibly annex any surrounding affluent community to increase the tax base of the city and who cares what those citizens desire.


How do you know that "There is zero support for it." I can guarantee you that if the citizens of Sandy Springs thought that the monorail was a waste of taxpayers money and didn't want it, they would make their opinions known to the Mayor and City Council. If the City Council doesn't heed their opinions, they'll get voted out of office.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by David1502

FYI: The City of Sandy Springs was created by a referendum on June 21, 2005 in which 94% of the voters voted for incorporation as a city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Springs,_Georgia


Based on the enthusiastic support of the residents of Sandy Springs to form their own municipality, how can you say that it never should have been formed in the first place. Don't you think that those who live there should decide what form of government they will have?


Or, do you as several others on this forum think that the City of Atlanta should be able to forcibly annex any surrounding affluent community to increase the tax base of the city and who cares what those citizens desire.


How do you know that "There is zero support for it." I can guarantee you that if the citizens of Sandy Springs thought that the monorail was a waste of taxpayers money and didn't want it, they would make their opinions known to the Mayor and City Council. If the City Council doesn't heed their opinions, they'll get voted out of office.

Apparently, every city in Georgia created after 2005 was due to racist white people.

[GatorsZ71]

Originally Posted by jero23

If you say so...it's more to that story but they won't admit that publicly...

Sounds like Jero is butthurt because Sandy Springs wanted to become a city and have their own government. Most understand why these cities that became incorporated did so who are in fulton county, because who wants city of Atlanta running their city to begin with? They screw things up as it is, has nothing to do with being racist, black or white.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by iwantmypootie

Sounds like Jero is butthurt because Sandy Springs wanted to become a city and have their own government. Most understand why these cities that became incorporated did so who are in fulton county, because who wants city of Atlanta running their city to begin with? They screw things up as it is, has nothing to do with being racist or white.

In fairness, Sandy Springs wanted to get out from under Fulton County's government, not the City of Atlanta's (the latter had not attempted to annex Sandy Springs since the late 60s/early 70s, and couldn't do so without local approval). Same reasons apply to Dunwoody, Brookhaven, and Tucker with DeKalb.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Here's a leak of the preliminary plan:

So, is this a clever joke on there not being a plan, or did your image just mess up?

[jero23]

Originally Posted by David1502

FYI: The City of Sandy Springs was created by a referendum on June 21, 2005 in which 94% of the voters voted for incorporation as a city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Springs,_Georgia


Based on the enthusiastic support of the residents of Sandy Springs to form their own municipality, how can you say that it never should have been formed in the first place. Don't you think that those who live there should decide what form of government they will have?


Or, do you as several others on this forum think that the City of Atlanta should be able to forcibly annex any surrounding affluent community to increase the tax base of the city and who cares what those citizens desire.


How do you know that "There is zero support for it." I can guarantee you that if the citizens of Sandy Springs thought that the monorail was a waste of taxpayers money and didn't want it, they would make their opinions known to the Mayor and City Council. If the City Council doesn't heed their opinions, they'll get voted out of office.

Zero support from any regional planning entity that would fund it like Atlanta Regional Commission and MARTA. If they are looking for federal funding this cockamamie idea then it will be issued through the FTA and require them to use MARTA to conduct the feasibility study, environmental assessment process...

Oh yeah, taxes are already high there in Sandy Springs and higher now, but thanks for playing...

Originally Posted by Gulch

Apparently, every city in Georgia created after 2005 was due to racist white people.

Yeah, that's right. Meanwhile, you have yet to proven wrong on that point because this region has some serious issue and race is one of them...

Originally Posted by iwantmypootie

Sounds like Jero is butthurt because Sandy Springs wanted to become a city and have their own government. Most understand why these cities that became incorporated did so who are in fulton county, because who wants city of Atlanta running their city to begin with? They screw things up as it is, has nothing to do with being racist, black or white.

Yeah, what is the point of this stupid post, again? I'm going to let you think about that, but don't worry because I don't care to know...

Originally Posted by Gulch

In fairness, Sandy Springs wanted to get out from under Fulton County's government, not the City of Atlanta's (the latter had not attempted to annex Sandy Springs since the late 60s/early 70s, and couldn't do so without local approval). Same reasons apply to Dunwoody, Brookhaven, and Tucker with DeKalb.

Tucker, yeah it are legit because it is historically designated place with a downtown and main street. The rest of those you really need to stop while you are ahead...

[ATLTJL]

He can be as butthurt as he wants, as can anybody else, and it really doesn't matter because:

Residents of towns like Sandy Springs and Johns Creek will always win in the end. Because they have the money, education, and power to make sure they get what they want.

So while they are out there doing that, the losers are on internet forums complaining about it. Which affects them absolutely zero.

Real World 101.

[David1502]

Originally Posted by jero23

Zero support from any regional planning entity that would fund it like Atlanta Regional Commission and MARTA. If they are looking for federal funding this cockamamie idea then it will be issued through the FTA and require them to use MARTA to conduct the feasibility study, environmental assessment process...

Oh yeah, taxes are already high there in Sandy Springs and higher now, but thanks for playing...



Yeah, that's right. Meanwhile, you have yet to proven wrong on that point because this region has some serious issue and race is one of them...



Yeah, what is the point of this stupid post, again? I'm going to let you think about that, but don't worry because I don't care to know...



Tucker, yeah it are legit because it is historically designated place with a downtown and main street. The rest of those you really need to stop while you are ahead...

According to your logic, then 94% of Sandy Springs (who voted for incorporation) are racists who don't like black people. This is in a city which is 65% white, 20% black and 14% Hispanic according to the 2010 census.


Again, the belief that every political action in metro Atlanta is motivated by race continues, regardless of the numerical evidence. In the case of Sandy Springs, the residents had no control over zoning since the Fulton County Commission decided every zoning issue. This was the main focus of the campaign to incorporate since the citizens of the area felt like Fulton County would approve any development -whether it was a strip club or apartments regardless of what they wanted. Developers had control over zoning decisions in unincorporated Fulton County.


Why should MARTA be opposed to the plan, because it won't have to finance it and it would provide additional riders to connect with MARTA at the MARTA stations?


The Cumberland Community Improvement District also has plans for a monorail to cover the Cumberland Galleria area. Also, the City of Detroit has monorail service covering its downtown area.