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Old 02-15-2016, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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On the bright side, it is an affordable grocery store. Glad its a Sprouts and not a WF. I get the feeling it would make the area less affordable in general.
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:57 PM
 
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These next few years belong to Reynoldstown and Grant Park like 2012-2015 did for Old Fourth Ward.
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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Well, it looks like Fuqua is getting ready to roll on this.

Glad they have set aside funding for transit and alternative means of transportation so this won't be drive-to urbanism.


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Old 03-07-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Well, it looks like Fuqua is getting ready to roll on this.

Glad they have set aside funding for transit and alternative means of transportation so this won't be drive-to urbanism.
Do you have a source for this? It wasn't in the article you linked.

I'm not so sold that this will not be 'drive to urbanism'. It will hopefully work out better than other Fuqua projects, but there's still a massive amount of parking, and car-centric design going on.
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Well, it looks like Fuqua is getting ready to roll on this.

Glad they have set aside funding for transit and alternative means of transportation so this won't be drive-to urbanism.
How many Mattress Firms?
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:41 PM
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Do you have a source for this? It wasn't in the article you linked.

I'm not so sold that this will not be 'drive to urbanism'. It will hopefully work out better than other Fuqua projects, but there's still a massive amount of parking, and car-centric design going on.
Even if Arjay is right, of course it's going to be "drive to urbanism." If it's not obvious by now, that's all we're going to get in this city. There are zero examples of non-drive to urbanism in Atlanta.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Even if Arjay is right, of course it's going to be "drive to urbanism." If it's not obvious by now, that's all we're going to get in this city. There are zero examples of non-drive to urbanism in Atlanta.
Well, I suppose that all depends on what one means by 'drive to'. I can think of a few parts of the city that are from before cars were the primary mode of transportation, that still hold their design and are very walkable, but not really much where the primary mode of movement is not the car.

PERHAPS some places along the BeltLine count, though.

Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't still be making an effort to continue to unprioritize the car as much as possible, if for no one else than our own residents.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:28 PM
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Well, I suppose that all depends on what one means by 'drive to'. I can think of a few parts of the city that are from before cars were the primary mode of transportation, that still hold their design and are very walkable, but not really much where the primary mode of movement is not the car.

PERHAPS some places along the BeltLine count, though.

Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't still be making an effort to continue to unprioritize the car as much as possible, if for no one else than our own residents.
When people use words like "urbanism" I hear "new development" or perhaps "adaptive reuse." Every new or adaptive development in this city is very car friendly, even the ones that connect to the Beltlne (PCM, KSM, Kro-Bar, Leggett & Platt, etc.) or aspire towards walkability (Atlantic Station, Inman Quarter, etc).

I agree with you that unprioritizing the car is a good idea. But I think expecting to get that with a development that borders the interstate, especially from Fuqua, is wishful thinking.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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When people use words like "urbanism" I hear "new development" or perhaps "adaptive reuse." Every new or adaptive development in this city is very car friendly, even the ones that connect to the Beltlne (PCM, KSM, Kro-Bar, Leggett & Platt, etc.) or aspire towards walkability (Atlantic Station, Inman Quarter, etc).

I agree with you that unprioritizing the car is a good idea. But I think expecting to get that with a development that borders the interstate, especially from Fuqua, is wishful thinking.
Well, I tend to think of existing as well as new development.

I think we could have done better. I think the main issue was Fuqua's lack of imagination. The neighborhood had to convince Fuqua to increase the density to this current level, and likely would have supported even more.
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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Drive-to urbanism revers to "walkable" developments that are only accessible by a car. The Battery at SunTrust Park is a great example. Leggett & Platt is just bad urbanism for sure. But its debatable if it can be categorized as drive-to urbanism given its Beltline location.


And good luck getting a project financed without adequately accounting for drivers. I think its entirely possible to build walkable developments with car access from the development side. But creating an enviroment where other modes of transportation get equal attention is something that will have to come from the city planning side.
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