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Old 01-11-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Originally Posted by toll_booth View Post
**** is getting real in Perimeter Center.

Does anyone know whether Dunwoody MARTA will get an additional entrance/exit on the south end of the station, next to the new State Farm building?
It's a direct connection to the new building.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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So what does "urban" mean?

I'm not arguing with you, Pemgin, just asking. We use the term all the time but I'm not sure the definition is all that clear.
Merriam-Webster dictionary defines "urban" as: "of, relating to, characteristic of, or constituting a city."

So, it would appear that cities are urban by definition, no matter if they have lots of cars and no public transit. Well, at least that's how I'm reading the definition. In looking it up, I also saw that eight Popes have been named "Urban."
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Old 01-11-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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It's a direct connection to the new building.
Excellent.
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Old 01-11-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Blackistan
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So what does "urban" mean?

I'm not arguing with you, Pemgin, just asking. We use the term all the time but I'm not sure the definition is all that clear.
Generally an area with infrastructure that can maximize population density and land use, and and can provide a sufficient amount of amenities to residents for everyday living within a short distance. Also places that allow and cater to a variety of mobility options. I think you're correct in that the definition is not always clear, but I think it's generally agreed that some things are urban, like narrow streets that accommodate pedestrians and cyclists and street level retail/amenities, and some things are not, like big box stores with huge parking lots and wide, disconnected streets.

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Paris has a bunch of skyscrapers, but I do get your point.
I didnt think La Defense was in the city of Paris, but I could be wrong.
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Old 01-11-2016, 05:57 PM
 
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Generally an area with infrastructure that can maximize population density and land use, and and can provide a sufficient amount of amenities to residents for everyday living within a short distance. Also places that allow and cater to a variety of mobility options. I think you're correct in that the definition is not always clear, but I think it's generally agreed that some things are urban, like narrow streets that accommodate pedestrians and cyclists and street level retail/amenities, and some things are not, like big box stores with huge parking lots and wide, disconnected streets.
I tend to agree. However, I think those are conventions and they aren't written in stone.

Ansley has a point that urban has a broader meaning as well. As cities evolve, the definition of urban evolves, too.
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:36 PM
 
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Yes that is correct, but PC is well served by 3 MARTA stations. State Farm is building their campus with direct MARTA access, so MARTA is becoming more of an economic development tool and encouraging development in areas served. It is one reason why Perimeter Center is the premier edge city and is killing Cumberland in this market.
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Cumberland has the Braves and don't need no stinkin' MARTA; haven't you heard?
The Cumberland area wants MARTA, The larger Cobb county is the issue

East Cobb and others are trying to prevent light rail or MARTA. When light rail is not even planned for those areas it's for Cumberland up to the Cobb Town Center.

PC benefits from being in Fulton.
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:43 PM
 
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I said this before it's literally impossible for the CoA to have all the growth, PC, Cumberland and a few others areas have to urban up. So this is in the right direction.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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I'm not a city planner but I'm not sure this is a good idea. Like others state, the traffic is already terrible in this area. We moved our office to Marietta, Franklin road and it's really working out so far. The commercial rent is lower because the city of Marietta is trying to entice businesses to move there. It just seems like it makes more sense to revitalize older office complexes in and around the city than stand up another skyscraper in Dunwoody. working in a multi-story building just is not as good a working environment IMO. If you have smaller pockets of commercial areas then traffic is dispersed in different areas. Also, what happens if there is an economic downturn? You have a big commercial space sitting empty. I thought I heard that the Bank of america tower in midtown is less than 50% occupied.
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I'm not a city planner but I'm not sure this is a good idea. Like others state, the traffic is already terrible in this area. We moved our office to Marietta, Franklin road and it's really working out so far. The commercial rent is lower because the city of Marietta is trying to entice businesses to move there. It just seems like it makes more sense to revitalize older office complexes in and around the city than stand up another skyscraper in Dunwoody. working in a multi-story building just is not as good a working environment IMO. If you have smaller pockets of commercial areas then traffic is dispersed in different areas. Also, what happens if there is an economic downturn? You have a big commercial space sitting empty. I thought I heard that the Bank of america tower in midtown is less than 50% occupied.
That is true, but there are other factors that lead to the occupancy rate.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:20 AM
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I'm not a city planner but I'm not sure this is a good idea. Like others state, the traffic is already terrible in this area. We moved our office to Marietta, Franklin road and it's really working out so far. The commercial rent is lower because the city of Marietta is trying to entice businesses to move there. It just seems like it makes more sense to revitalize older office complexes in and around the city than stand up another skyscraper in Dunwoody. working in a multi-story building just is not as good a working environment IMO. If you have smaller pockets of commercial areas then traffic is dispersed in different areas. Also, what happens if there is an economic downturn? You have a big commercial space sitting empty. I thought I heard that the Bank of america tower in midtown is less than 50% occupied.
Traffic is terrible in downtown Atlanta. Sometimes midtown gets ridiculous. Maybe we shouldn't build any more high-rises there?
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