South Fulton residents could get a vote on incorporation (Atlanta: construction, offices)

[demonta4]

Originally Posted by jero23

And your point is...? Yeah, they are being played like a fiddle by puppeteers and the proposal is stupid as hell. What's new, Scooby Doo?

There's really no point in trying to explain to you anymore, if you don't get it now, you never will

[jero23]

Originally Posted by demonta4

There's really no point in trying to explain to you anymore, if you don't get it now, you never will

I get but don't care because it's not practical or logical...

[South Fulton Facts]

People in unincorporated south Fulton County ARE being manipulated.

They think this is about them. but it really isn't.

This is a battle between Fulton County Republicans and Atlanta Democrats. South Fulton just has the unfortunate convenience of being caught in the middle.

Republicans want the City of South Fulton because the City of South Fulton is their key to dismantling Fulton County Once the county is 100% municipalized, Republicans have their excuse to reduce the size of the county commission; abolish departments wholesale; and strip the county so far down that re-creating Milton County is all but assured.

Atlanta opposes the City of South Fulton because they want to grow their borders. They want everything down to Camp Creek Parkway. There are votes in that land area that will prevent Kasim Reed from becoming the last black mayor of Atlanta for awhile.

It is laughable that cityhood supporters think this is about them and local control. This is not about them. To put it bluntly, Atlanta Democrats and Fulton County Republicans could give less than a single **** about south Fulton. In their opinion, the schools suck. The people are even worse. And anyone worth their salt left South Fulton years ago.

This is a big chess game, deciding who controls Atlanta and Fulton County for the next generation. And the cityhood supporters are just pawns in this game.

[demonta4]

Originally Posted by South Fulton Facts

People in unincorporated south Fulton County ARE being manipulated.

They think this is about them. but it really isn't.

This is a battle between Fulton County Republicans and Atlanta Democrats. South Fulton just has the unfortunate convenience of being caught in the middle.

Republicans want the City of South Fulton because the City of South Fulton is their key to dismantling Fulton County Once the county is 100% municipalized, Republicans have their excuse to reduce the size of the county commission; abolish departments wholesale; and strip the county so far down that re-creating Milton County is all but assured.

Atlanta opposes the City of South Fulton because they want to grow their borders. They want everything down to Camp Creek Parkway. There are votes in that land area that will prevent Kasim Reed from becoming the last black mayor of Atlanta for awhile.

It is laughable that cityhood supporters think this is about them and local control. This is not about them. To put it bluntly, Atlanta Democrats and Fulton County Republicans could give less than a single **** about south Fulton. In their opinion, the schools suck. The people are even worse. And anyone worth their salt left South Fulton years ago.

This is a big chess game, deciding who controls Atlanta and Fulton County for the next generation. And the cityhood supporters are just pawns in this game.

And where is you're proof for all of this? And in the long term why does it matter? We could also say the North Fulton cities were created for the same reasons. Are they being manipulated? Are the citizens of Atlanta being manipulated? If what you're saying is true then it doesn't matter if it incorporates or not. The republicans would get what they want either way because the land would be annexed (which is going on now). Why should we care what they do? South Fulton is already running as a unofficial city with horrible leadership from the commission. If we incorporate or annex we'll have local control and vote in who we want on a smaller scale. I don't care what North Fulton does as long as we're incorporated and stable when they do it. (Btw by law they can't create a new county unless they combine existing ones which is a uphill battle politically)

[bu2]

Originally Posted by South Fulton Facts

People in unincorporated south Fulton County ARE being manipulated.

They think this is about them. but it really isn't.

This is a battle between Fulton County Republicans and Atlanta Democrats. South Fulton just has the unfortunate convenience of being caught in the middle.

Republicans want the City of South Fulton because the City of South Fulton is their key to dismantling Fulton County Once the county is 100% municipalized, Republicans have their excuse to reduce the size of the county commission; abolish departments wholesale; and strip the county so far down that re-creating Milton County is all but assured.

Atlanta opposes the City of South Fulton because they want to grow their borders. They want everything down to Camp Creek Parkway. There are votes in that land area that will prevent Kasim Reed from becoming the last black mayor of Atlanta for awhile.

It is laughable that cityhood supporters think this is about them and local control. This is not about them. To put it bluntly, Atlanta Democrats and Fulton County Republicans could give less than a single **** about south Fulton. In their opinion, the schools suck. The people are even worse. And anyone worth their salt left South Fulton years ago.

This is a big chess game, deciding who controls Atlanta and Fulton County for the next generation. And the cityhood supporters are just pawns in this game.

Well some of the cityhood supporters are South Fulton politicians who want control of the money. Initially the mayor of the new city had a really big salary in the legislation, but the legislature knocked that down to a figure comparable to similar cities in Georgia.

[Kimgem]

Originally Posted by demonta4

And where is you're proof for all of this? And in the long term why does it matter? We could also say the North Fulton cities were created for the same reasons. Are they being manipulated? Are the citizens of Atlanta being manipulated? If what you're saying is true then it doesn't matter if it incorporates or not. The republicans would get what they want either way because the land would be annexed (which is going on now). Why should we care what they do? South Fulton is already running as a unofficial city with horrible leadership from the commission. If we incorporate or annex we'll have local control and vote in who we want on a smaller scale. I don't care what North Fulton does as long as we're incorporated and stable when they do it.

Agree. That is why I've responded to this thread. I'm not sure if you are in the unincorporated area, but you understand that this vote is about the daily lives of South Fulton citizens.

The reasons to vote yes include:

* Many of us are dissatisfied with the level of services that Fulton County provides
* Do not want our children forced to attend Atlanta public schools
* Want to have a voice in how our tax dollars are spent
* Want leadership who actually lives in this area - for transparency and accountability of government.

Think about this: If you have chest pain regularly, would you keep on ignoring the problem in hopes that things will get better on their own? Would you ignore the problem because an acquaintance (who never had a chest pain in his life) tells you that you don't need to go to a doctor?

He whispers in your ear that a doctor might cause more problems or tries to make you suspicious that the doctor may have an ulterior motive.

Would you take this acquaintance's advice? No, you are smarter than that. You realize that it won't affect his life one way or the other if you heeded his advice and ended up having a heart attack! He'll keep on living his life just fine. After all, he had no "skin in the game."

But you'll be the one living with the consequences, experiencing the pain. All because you ignored the signs that were speaking to you in your daily life.

I am writing to those who live in the area and are undecided about the vote. I am convinced that the City of South Fulton is in our best interest based upon what is happening in our area NOW.

To see why it is in our best interest to vote "Yes," please visit cityhood.net (quick video) or voteyescitysfulton.org has FAQs and other information.

If we do not "Vote Yes," on November 8, then forces outside of unincorporated South Fulton will continue to dictate what happens in an area that most of them don't even live in and whose daily lives won't be affected one way or the other. We cannot afford to be silent on this issue.

The advantage to becoming a city is that we would have the power to elect our own mayor and city council to address our concerns. By state law, only an elected body can make decisions about how/where/when public funds are spent.

Eva Galambos, in her tireless fight to incorporate Sandy Springs was quoted in an article that she was “convinced that local control, with a City of our own, was the only answer for Sandy Springs.” I and many of the residents of this area, are convinced that the time has come for the City of South Fulton.

What we as citizens of South Fulton can do now is vote "yes" on cityhood on November 8, 2016. To get the facts, please visit cityhood.net or voteyescitysfulton.org. Once we vote "yes" and are incorporated, we then elect our Mayor and City Council. They will be accountable to act in our community's best interest.

[IronMikeTaylor]

I could not have said (or post) it better!

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by Kimgem

Want leadership who actually lives in this area

Which area would that be? One of these random disconnected splotches?

[jero23]

I see the AstroTurfing has begun...

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Which area would that be? One of these random disconnected splotches?

I still don't get all this hoopla about "disconnected patches" and "uneven borders." Almost every city has that. If South Fulton incorporates they can look at annexing additional areas down the road.