CoA gears up for MARTA / Beltline Expansion with Another EA

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

You would need to transfer where Luckie and North intersect (from a Crosstown Midtown train to a BeltLine Outter Loop train), or transfer to the Route 1 bus, or maybe transfer to a Centennial Park Circulator depending on the route, or walk from where you get off the streetcar.

What makes that hard to understand (not trying to be dismissive or anything. I'm actually curious)?

Well, I guess I just don't like the design.

Seems to me, a more logical way to do a streetcar system would be, straight lines like a Peachtree St line, a North Avenue line, a 10th St line, a Northside Dr line, Marietta St/Decatur St line, etc. And of course the Beltline loop, and maybe other loops that run on one-way streets like COP and Ted Turner.

Transfering because you need to connect to a different line to go in a different direction makes total sense. But a literal T-shape design for a transit line though, I just find really strange.

[primaltech]

I wish they'd fix the freakin' end of Virginia Ave at Monroe, and have it flow straight into 10th. Then you could do a 10th/Virginia straight line, from Howell Mill to N Highland, connecting directly with MARTA at Midtown. Would be amazingly popular and useful.

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

You would need to transfer where Luckie and North intersect (from a Crosstown Midtown train to a BeltLine Outter Loop train), or transfer to the Route 1 bus, or maybe transfer to a Centennial Park Circulator depending on the route, or walk from where you get off the streetcar.

What makes that hard to understand (not trying to be dismissive or anything. I'm actually curious)?

Actually based on the service plan I saw posted here a while ago, no transfer will be needed at Luckie and North. There will be two bi-directional service patterns. One straight across, and one running to/from each end to/from Luckie Street. So the first pattern will go A <-> B while the second will go A -> C -> B -> C -> A Where A and B are Bankhead and Ponce City Market respectively, while C is COP (Luckie).

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Actually based on the service plan I saw posted here a while ago, no transfer will be needed at Luckie and North. There will be two bi-directional service patterns. One straight across, and one running to/from each end to/from Luckie Street. So the first pattern will go A <-> B while the second will go A -> C -> B -> C -> A Where A and B are Bankhead and Ponce City Market respectively, while C is COP (Luckie).

Could you find it again? If it was one of mine, then it's a fantasy, and if it was one of the official ones from the first streetcar plan, then it is out of date (potentially).

[MattCW]

PDF Page 44 (page 29 of the report). http://beltline.org/wp-content/uploa...ort-022514.pdf
Note that that's only phase 2, phase 1 does have a bit of an odd operating plan, but it's still mostly bidirectional.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by alco89

So the MLK alternative:

-would duplicate existing MARTA rail service
-wouldn't have as much right-of-way
-wouldn't reach as many new riders by leaving out Castleberry Hill and the core of the AUC

Why was it ever an alternative? Thank goodness for the citizens in attendance at the meeting.

FTA grants require there to be alternatives.