MARTA unveils its dream project list for November Referendum (rental car, 2015)

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by primaltech

And if you do "BRT" on tiny narrow Glenwood Ave, that's even stupider. Will just be running in traffic, just a normal bus.

BTW, WTF is this intersection?
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7403.../data=!3m1!1e3

Stupid Atlanta.

That intersection has funding to be 'straightened'

[cqholt]

Also, I would rather see the Campbellton LRT line be BRT or ART instead of LRT, but I know politically it was added so that not all the LRT lines are in the 'white areas.'

[jsvh]

Very excited!

Some good bus improvements on there. Infill stations, LRT lines. Looks like they have a pretty complete list of projects on there.


A few minor concerns:

-As noted, BRT getting of I-20 onto Bill Kennedy Way is a terrible idea. They should just built a station under the BKW bridge and stay on I-20.

-Inman / Reynoldstown station needs pedestrain improvements!

-Disappointed LRT down through Turner Field area didn't make this cut.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Very excited!

Some good bus improvements on there. Infill stations, LRT lines. Looks like they have a pretty complete list of projects on there.


A few minor concerns:

-As noted, BRT getting of I-20 onto Bill Kennedy Way is a terrible idea. They should just built a station under the BKW bridge and stay on I-20.
Use the additional ROW by removing 1 lane from the Boulevard ramps.
-Inman / Reynoldstown station needs pedestrain improvements!
As does Edgewood/Candler Park
-Disappointed LRT down through Turner Field area didn't make this cut.
Have Carter and GSU pay for it.

Answers in bold.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Have Carter and GSU pay for it.

I have said it before and I'll say it again:

If the business community truly supports mass transit they need to get on board with funding it in a big way.

It is crazy to stick the burden on the little man to pay for enhancements to the rich man's property.

How much will big corporations benefit from mass transit? Gazillions.

How much are they paying for it?

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I have said it before and I'll say it again:

If the business community truly supports mass transit they need to get on board with funding it in a big way.

It is crazy to stick the burden on the little man to pay for enhancements to the rich man's property.

How much will big corporations benefit from mass transit? Gazillions.

How much are they paying for it?

As we have told you countless times before, the little guy will still pay for it when they use that business.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Also, I would rather see the Campbellton LRT line be BRT or ART instead of LRT, but I know politically it was added so that not all the LRT lines are in the 'white areas.'

The bus improvements map shows ART going down that way, with a Greenbriar transit center, so I don't think it'll be an issue.

Originally Posted by MattCW

As we have told you countless times before, the little guy will still pay for it when they use that business.

If anyone was simultaneously the most likely and least likely to fund streetcar expansion, I'd think it would be GSU. On one hand, the state would probably not want to fund transit in Atlanta. On the other, GSU has a direct interest in the health of its host city, and in how well its employees and students can get around. I wouldn't be surprised if they went the panther shuttle route if asked to pay for some of the transit, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they helped out.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by MattCW

As we have told you countless times before, the little guy will still pay for it when they use that business.

That's not exactly the way it works.

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by arjay57

That's not exactly the way it works.

It is if you want to stay in business.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

If anyone was simultaneously the most likely and least likely to fund streetcar expansion, I'd think it would be GSU. On one hand, the state would probably not want to fund transit in Atlanta. On the other, GSU has a direct interest in the health of its host city, and in how well its employees and students can get around.

Georgia state is a perfect example of why big business (and institutions) need to be heavily involved in funding.

Not only is all their property already tax exempt, but mass transit will greatly enhance its value when they decide to dispose of some of it.

In addition it's a great tool for recruiting workers and students.

They will also have to build fewer parking decks and they will be able to develop their property with greater density.

And to again address the argument that they simply directly pass through any investment in mass transit -- are they going to raise tuition by the amount they spend on transit funding? No. Are they going to cut salaries in that amount? No. That's simply not the way business works. Prices and profits are subject to a huge number of variables and large businesses take them into account and spread them out in extremely diverse and complex ways. If the cost of wax paper goes up, you don't see Mickey D's raising the price of cheeseburgers.