I'm all for gentrification. (Atlanta, Decatur: apartment, crime rate, price)

[TheTravelinMan]

Originally Posted by arjay57

This I have to agree with. I am technically elderly but I can still run a weed whacker and a mower.

For picking up trash and pine cones, I use one of these. They are only $2.99 and you can usually get them for 20% off, which brings them down to $2.39.

I bet if the government used its mass purchasing power they could get them even cheaper. Why not buy a zillion of them and pass them out to the citizens for free? You could have an immediate impact on the city for very little money.

You are so right however we could pass out a zillion of them but people have to have the motivation to use them.

[Forhall]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

You can't be serious. Young White people are often among the first gentrifiers in any city.

Show me all the white people living in South West Atlanta where all the black people, and thus crime, is concentrated. No, they move here and go straight to old 4th ward, the highlands, decatur, or midtown. Safe areas with mostly white populations.

[jero23]

Originally Posted by cqholt

You are also not lower/working class so therefore you can afford a better diet, healthcare, etc. It's not cheap to eat healthy and many old timers grew up eating unhealthy because it was the norm back then.

This is why I say what I say about the ignorance being expouted from that one. Credence to ignorance, apathy, foolishness...

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

You are also not lower/working class so therefore you can afford a better diet, healthcare, etc. It's not cheap to eat healthy and many old timers grew up eating unhealthy because it was the norm back then.

To be honest, you don't have to be in great shape to use a picker-upper.

Somebody can go out there for 5 or 10 minutes a couple of times a week and it is amazing how much you can pick up. You get a little exercise to boot.

[Forhall]

Originally Posted by arjay57

To be honest, you don't have to be in great shape to use a picker-upper.

Somebody can go out there for 5 or 10 minutes a couple of times a week and it is amazing how much you can pick up. You get a little exercise to boot.

Don't bother. There's always excuse for everything. That's why nothing ever changes.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by jero23

This is why I say what I say about the ignorance being expouted from that one. Credence to ignorance, apathy, foolishness...

What is ignorant, apathetic or foolish about giving people a free picker-upper?

I'm just suggesting an inexpensive way to make it easier for folks to keep their neighborhood picked up. You don't even have to bend over to use one of these things.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by TheTravelinMan

You are so right however we could pass out a zillion of them but people have to have the motivation to use them.

I suspect people would be glad to use them.

Let's say you've got an NPU with a population of 20,000. If even 1% per day use their picker-uppers for 12 minutes, that's an additional 40 man hours.

If that happened several times a week that could make a dramatic difference in litter.

And that sort of thing feeds on itself. Once folks get something neat, they usually want to keep it that way.

It would also deter many people who might be thinking about throwing their trash on the street. Yes, there will always be some scofflaws, but most people don't want to be seen as the no-goodnik who blatantly undoes what their community has accomplished.

[TheTravelinMan]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I suspect people would be glad to use them.

Let's say you've got an NPU with a population of 20,000. If even 1% per day use their picker-uppers for 12 minutes, that's an additional 40 man hours.

If that happened several times a week that could make a dramatic difference in litter.

And that sort of thing feeds on itself. Once folks get something neat, they usually want to keep it that way.

It would also deter many people who might be thinking about throwing their trash on the street. Yes, there will always be some scofflaws, but most people don't want to be seen as the no-goodnik who blatantly undoes what their community has accomplished.

I would love to share your optimism I really would. I guess my thing is if someone was really motivated to use one they would have spent the couple of bucks and gotten one already.

[jero23]

Originally Posted by arjay57

What is ignorant, apathetic or foolish about giving people a free picker-upper?

I'm just suggesting an inexpensive way to make it easier for folks to keep their neighborhood picked up. You don't even have to bend over to use one of these things.

You are band-wagoning on a fool's folly. Follow the poster you quoted intent and apathy towards what others have said is being done to those same communities then you will see how you shouldn't have said nothing validating their dubious stance. Those same communities are the same communities that are 90% of the time ignored after repeated requests for simple things nationwide because they don't have the color or hue to get a respect from their very jurisdiction...

Oh yeah, before anyone anyone says it, most of the time money doesn't mean anything to a jurisdiction unless you are directly tied to powerful elected officials. I've seen that happen one too many times to often from here in Atlanta to NOLA to Dallas to LA to Chicago to know that is not a valid argument.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by Forhall

Show me all the white people living in South West Atlanta where all the black people, and thus crime, is concentrated. No, they move here and go straight to old 4th ward, the highlands, decatur, or midtown. Safe areas with mostly white populations.

Wait until the Beltline is finished.

And all the Black people in Atlanta aren't solely concentrated in southwest Atlanta; southeast and northwest Atlanta are also heavily Black.

Many of the most popular neighborhoods in intown Atlanta today are gentrified, a couple of them relatively recently. This is common knowledge man...come on.