I'm all for gentrification. (Atlanta, Franklin: appointed, buying, landlord)

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by muses24

I'm not a racist. I'm a realist. I'm also a minority and I'm sick of unsurpervised teenage miscreants terrorizing people and getting a slap on the wrist. They're unashamed about what they do and I'm unapologetic about wanting to see them go.

Yeah what Brock Turner and the affulenza teen did were horrible and they were left off easy because of their white privilege.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by Saskia Calico

You're younger than 50, aren't you?

Can I assume that yoy are over 50? I really don't care, but you seem to have it mean something.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

White people had no problem living down the street or around the corner from black people ... as long as they went to different schools, shopped at different stores, drank from different fountains, rode in the back of the bus -- and did not vote.

Some of that had to do with the white community having easy access to their black domestics. My grandfather (who lived in Druid Hills) purchased a home for his black housekeeper in East Atlanta in the 1950's (which even then had a substantial black community) so that my grandmother wouldn't have to drive very far to pick her up.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by nick4242

Be grateful that you can buy a property in atlanta area because it's cheaper than renting, but for god's sake if you've ever picked up a newspaper in the past 15 years you would know that property values don't go up very much in atlanta.

Nearly every condo on peachtree street is worth around the same or lower than it was in 2002, to give you a perspective on atlanta.

You people don't even know what gentrification is, because practically anyone making above $25k/year in your city can buy a condo on peachtree street. Come to Denver or any city in the west and THEN you'll get a reality check on what real gentrification is.

That's assuming you have no debt and a 20% down payment, which is a VERY tall order for someone only making $25k. As soon as you do have debt, what you can afford drastically drops.

That's assuming, too, that you can find a listing. There's next to nothing posted.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by muses24

I'm not a racist. I'm a realist. I'm also a minority and I'm sick of unsurpervised teenage miscreants terrorizing people and getting a slap on the wrist. They're unashamed about what they do and I'm unapologetic about wanting to see them go.

Being a minority and being Black aren't the same thing.

[Ant131531]

People are fine with gentrification solely for the purpose of raising their property values.

[green_mariner]

I have a mixed view on this subject. On one hand, gentrification has been known to reduce crime. I work in an area where crime is rampant.

On the other hand, it would make an area more expensive. Rents in Atlanta proper are already going up. I would like to live very close to the city because it is close to where I work. Public transportation is much better towards the city. However, I'll either get:
1) Really expensive rent
2) Really bad crime if I want something more reasonable in cost.

There is no in between. Pay up the wallet for safety, or risk safety for economy. And then there is more. Where do those who can't afford to pay the property taxes go? Where do those who can't afford the rent go? They have to go somewhere.

With the new Braves stadium opening next year, rents in the Cumberland area are already rising alot. Even middle class people are going to have to hustle more. While crime will drop in some place, it will rise in other places.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

I have a mixed view on this subject. On one hand, gentrification has been known to reduce crime. I work in an area where crime is rampant.

On the other hand, it would make an area more expensive. Rents in Atlanta proper are already going up. I would like to live very close to the city because it is close to where I work. Public transportation is much better towards the city. However, I'll either get:
1) Really expensive rent
2) Really bad crime if I want something more reasonable in cost.

There is no in between. Pay up the wallet for safety, or risk safety for economy. And then there is more. Where do those who can't afford to pay the property taxes go? Where do those who can't afford the rent go? They have to go somewhere.

With the new Braves stadium opening next year, rents in the Cumberland area are already rising alot. Even middle class people are going to have to hustle more. While crime will drop in some place, it will rise in other places.

In the long run. for a point during gentrification, crime goes up as the newer, more affluent residents present easy targets.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by cqholt

In the long run. for a point during gentrification, crime goes up as the newer, more affluent residents present easy targets.

I would not be surprised if the new residents become targets. This is all over the USA.

On the other hand, the crime in those neighborhoods just goes to other places. Personally, I would be afraid to be one of those "gentrifiers" simply because I've been a crime victim before, in a relatively nice area. My chances as a gentrifier would be worse.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by equinox63

All of that is in this book that she recommended:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/06911...4jL&ref=plSrch

Originally Posted by aries4118

One related tidbit from your post that you will find in the book (among many other things)...


Ashby Street once had a black part and a white part.

Might have to check that out. Wish there was one done on a less partisan, demographic/statistical/historical point of view. The review and the subtitle and cover art have already pointed the finger and told me to be guilty.

Of course politics is involved, but would rather see a series of maps and let me draw my own conclusion to the overall "why" question. But thanks for the link and taking time to reply to my convoluted question....