Petition: automatic jail time for teens that commit burglary or home invasions (living in, law)

[John Williams]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

a generation of young black males born into a culture that glorifies violence, sex, drugs and killing.

"Around blacks, never relax," amirite?

[scgraham]

sin is coming home too roost

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by John Williams

"Around blacks, never relax," amirite?

If that's the case, perhaps they should move to the Northwest or far Northeast.

[scgraham]

72 percent born out of wedlock; that's a sin crisis.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by scgraham

72 percent born out of wedlock; that's a sin crisis.

Maybe if religious zealots didn't block access to sex-ed and contraception, then you'd get better results.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by scgraham

72 percent born out of wedlock; that's a sin crisis.

Isn't it a little ironic considering American blacks are the most religious group on the United States? I can't tell you how rare it is for me to find another black atheist or agnostic here in the Atlanta area.

[scgraham]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Maybe if religious zealots didn't block access to sex-ed and contraception, then you'd get better results.

sure you would

[scgraham]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Isn't it a little ironic considering American blacks are the most religious group on the United States? I can't tell you how rare it is for me to find another black atheist or agnostic here in the Atlanta area.

religion has nothing to do with it; ponder that if you will.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by scgraham

religion has nothing to do with it; ponder that if you will.

Hardly:

Conclusion

At the level of states in the U.S., conservative religious beliefs predict teen birth rates highly and significantly; the correlation remains high and significant after controlling for income and estimated rates of abortion.

Source: Religiosity and teen birth rate in the United States

Of course correlation does not mean causation, but to say religion has nothing to do with premarital pregnancies (in this case, I represent teen pregnancy, which I feel is a fair substitute for the point), is simply to be blind to reality.

Religious conservatism generally makes it hard for teens to access contraception, accurate sexual education, and even medical support to handle STDs and unwanted pregnancies.


Of course all of this is getting off topic, but so is bringing in 'sin'.

[unihills]

Originally Posted by bellhead

If you break into a home or business it should be a 5 year term in the state pen. Once word of a harsh sentence gets around a lot of it would stop.

We have a death penalty but still a lot of murder so I can't agree with your conclusion.

I think education and rehabilitation are more effective and beneficial to a society than incarceration.