Film industry spends staggering $2 billion in GA in single year (Atlanta: houses, buy)

[Newsboy]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

$500,000 is a tiny budget for a production. Only the smallest of small productions is done for $500,000. On a standard tv series, you'll have at least 50 crew working. Movies, except for tiny independents, use even more. And labor ain't cheap (it's cheaper than california or new york, but it's not like we're making $10 an hour here). But there's also a substantial list of what can be applied to that total. And it adds up quickly.

things that can be applied towards the total:

• camera equipment, supplies and accessories
• motion picture film and videotape stock
• digital discs, masters and hard drives
• lighting equipment, including gels, bulbs and lamps
• stage and studio equipment rentals
• cranes, booms, dollies and jibs, camera cars and picture cars
• electric stands, cables and wires
• generators, fuel and cables
• location fees and location supplies
• sound recording equipment
• costumes, props, scenery and materials to construct them
• design services, materials and equipment
• heating and air conditioning equipment used on the set
• drafting equipment and supplies
• special effects supplies, equipment and services
• photographic film
• animation equipment and services
• computer hardware, software, graphic equipment and services
• equipment and supplies for duplication, sound mixing, editing and conforming
• rental of production office space and stage space
• makeup, supplies and accessories
• film processing and color correction services
• film, digital, or tape editing and related services
• transfers of film to tape or digital format
• hotel rooms and lodging
• airfare from home state to the production and return if purchased through a georgia travel agency or company
• insurance and bonding if purchased through a georgia insurance agency or company
• purchase or rental of motor vehicles exclusively used in production
• per diem, box rental
• catered food and beverage
• office supplies and furniture
• shipments to and from the production office via fed ex/ups/usps
• payroll up to $500,000 per person, per production if properly paid by w2; no cap if workers are paid by 1099 or by personal services contract or are working as a loanout
• sound recordings excluding license fees used in feature films, television specials, television series or game development (including motion picture soundtracks) for projects produced entirely in the state of georgia

$2.1 billion / 245 productions = $8.57 million average

Of course, considering that "Captain America Civil War" filmed at Pinewood in Fayetteville had a budget of $250 million ... It's safe to assume that several big-budget productions account for much of the total

[MikeHonchoATL]

Hooray for corporate welfare!!!

[Newsboy]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Hooray for corporate welfare!!!

LEMME GUESS: Trump supporter?

[MikeHonchoATL]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

LEMME GUESS: Trump supporter?

Huh?

You like corporate welfare, boy?

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Hooray for corporate welfare!!!

Corporate welfare for companies that are already doing something, or provide, at best, mediocre change to an area is one thing. Providing a tax break to an industry which has single-handedly employed thousands of people at great wages, spawned entire new business communities to create and grow, and provided tons of business to local businesses is another.

I could easily find hundreds of people who five years ago were surviving on $25k a year and are now making more than double that. I can provide about a dozen personal friends who went from that $25k to making almost or more than $100,000 a year now because of the growth of this industry.

If someone offered you a million dollars, but said you had to give back 30% of it, or said you could have nothing at all, which would you take?

[tikigod311]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Hooray for corporate welfare!!!

That game isn't going away anytime soon. So until it is banned somehow on a federal level, we may as well get something out of it. Kinda icky, but practical

[MikeHonchoATL]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

Corporate welfare for companies that are already doing something, or provide, at best, mediocre change to an area is one thing. Providing a tax break to an industry which has single-handedly employed thousands of people at great wages, spawned entire new business communities to create and grow, and provided tons of business to local businesses is another.

I could easily find hundreds of people who five years ago were surviving on $25k a year and are now making more than double that. I can provide about a dozen personal friends who went from that $25k to making almost or more than $100,000 a year now because of the growth of this industry.

If someone offered you a million dollars, but said you had to give back 30% of it, or said you could have nothing at all, which would you take?

I certainly understand the economics behind these tax breaks.

Georgia better be prepared to keep them on forever and to even up them because what happens when somewhere else offers more?

If this were billions of dollars going to Wal-Mart, Exxon-Mobil or whoever the 'big evil corporate meanie' of the week is, y'all would be foaming at the mouth angry. It is the same thing.

Of all the industries to choose to support, the entertainment would've been pretty far down my list, but I guess that fits in well with Georgia's poor education rates.


PS: You can save the "I know somebody" examples. If that is your point, that just screams of bias and an inability to take the 1,000 ft view of the situation. "But but but Connor and Tryone have jobs making lots of money and they didn't 10 years ago..." <Yawn>

[Newsboy]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Of all the industries to choose to support, the entertainment would've been pretty far down my list, but I guess that fits in well with Georgia's poor education rates.

So why do the states of California and New York also subsidize the entertainment industry? I guess the people in those states are just dumb uneducated crackers too?

This is how the game is played. Georgia didn't invent it or start it. But it's proven to be a winner at playing it, because of several key factors working in our favor that lesser states who've tried to play the game did not have: Locations, facilities, crew base, airport, etc.

[brownhornet]

And if no companies came here without tax breaks, they'd complain about that too so it's never a win on here.

[JoeP]

I would be more interested in numbers not provided by the state. We've seen this play put before.