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Old 08-03-2017, 07:13 AM
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You have to read the entire post, and not just one phrase. Oakland Cemetery is not in charge of the greenway. The cemetery barely has enough money to keep their lawn mowed.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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The city / park is already offering Pellerin more than they paid for the site.
But is that going to be enough for Pellerin to be able to make money on their project if they have to find an alternate site nearby?
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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There needs to be a system in place where a community can create a vision for future park land (or whatever growth they deem appropriate), and that vision can become a reality over a period of time even if the funding isn't in place from the start. Otherwise, the deck is stacked against communities.
Sure, that is sort of the point of eminent domain. But, that has to be weighed against individual property rights--and it really has to be determined if the project is really for the good of the community. My guess is that in Georgia the property owner gets the benefit of the doubt--as it should be--(personally, I would be upset if the casino folks convinced the Georgia Assembly that they should tear down my home so that a casino could be built, bringing all sorts of jobs to the neighborhood). The Greenway folks should play all their cards and pushing eminent domain is one of those cards--they could win--or maybe the possibility of a delay may push the developers to come to a more equitable solution--maybe a land swap, or cash, so they can move on to other projects.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The Greenway folks should play all their cards and pushing eminent domain is one of those cards--they could win--or maybe the possibility of a delay may push the developers to come to a more equitable solution--maybe a land swap, or cash, so they can move on to other projects.
That could backfire on them and then they lose support.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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That could backfire on them and then they lose support.
Hence why I think that the best solution if the land must be a park would be for the CoA to swap parcels with Pellerin and have them take the parking lot north of MLK between George Street and Oakland Avenue. Pellerin would also have the added benefit of more land to work with for their project.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Hence why I think that the best solution if the land must be a park would be for the CoA to swap parcels with Pellerin and have them take the parking lot north of MLK between George Street and Oakland Avenue. Pellerin would also have the added benefit of more land to work with for their project.
I agree with you, but Oakland wants to keep it as a parking lot.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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I agree with you, but Oakland wants to keep it as a parking lot.
Then how about doing a shared parking arrangement with the new development? Otherwise, if they're not interested in being creative, they and GPNA can shut their mouths.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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Then how about doing a shared parking arrangement with the new development? Otherwise, if they're not interested in being creative, they and GPNA can shut their mouths.
It appears the only change GPNA and NPU-W has done is added parking.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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It appears the only change GPNA and NPU-W has done is added parking.
Color me shocked.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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But is that going to be enough for Pellerin to be able to make money on their project if they have to find an alternate site nearby?
I don't think Pellerin is guaranteed a similar site nearby. They knew of this vision of the park when they bought the property. But what I am hearing is that the park / city is willing to negotiate with them to do a project more in line with the vision of the park or buy them out. But Pellerin is wanting to try to force this development though instead of negotiating.

As most of you know, I am supportive of density and think all the surrounding parcels should be allowed to build as much density as the market supports. But good parks are equally important. I think the vision of keeping Harp as a one-story building as an amenity of the park are appropriate. If the developer is not wanting to comply with that vision of the park and is not willing to sell at a reasonable price, I think eminent domain needs to be put on the table.
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