Special Election - 6th Congressional District (Norwood: student loan, brokers, contractors)

[MikeHonchoATL]

Did you guys know that Jon Ossoff is a national security expert? He has had a TS security clearance for 5 whole months! WOW! What a candidate!

[Cameron H]

Originally Posted by whodean

That is your (possibly biased) interpretation of the event

I don't see how you can spin out of this interpretation, but I'd be interested to see the attempt. Trump's ignorant assumptions about the PRC-DPRK relationship are not new. January 2016, in the presidential debate, he said the same thing: "China, they don't like to tell us but they have total control -- just about, of North Korea. They can solve the problem of North Korea if they wanted to, but they taunt us."

He repeated this throughout the campaign and leading up to his meeting with Xi Jinping. Tillerson parroted the president's lines in his confirmation hearing. This was all widely reported, and foreign policy experts, journalists, pundits, and members of his own party pointed out that it was wrong, and exactly why it was wrong. Now, after listening to Xi Jinping for ten minutes, Trump admits that it was wrong for the reasons that had been pointed out. And when he says, "it's not what you would think," he suggests that anyone would have shared his inaccurate views, despite all the readily accessible sources pointing out that his view was inaccurate.

So what's the interpretive case for non-ignorance?

[JPD]

Originally Posted by earthlyfather

Straight out of the porn industry, a little fluffing, if you will.

This is what fear and desperation looks like. ^^

[samiwas1]

I'm just ready for this stupid election to be over so I can stop seeing these awful political ads: "LIBERAL Jon Ossoff will rubber stamp Pelosi's LIBEAL AGENDA because he's a LIBERAL who does LIBERAL things and is not like us!!!! He's a LIBERAL!!! He can't be trusted because HE'S A LIBERAL!!! Oh, and one time he made a funny film in college!!!"

[whodean]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

Now, after listening to Xi Jinping for ten minutes, Trump admits that it was wrong for the reasons that had been pointed out. ?

I think this is where you are inventing your narrative. We don't know the reasons Xi gave Trump. We were not privy to that conversation. You speculate the reasons match your citation, or any other available Intel.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

Well, again, he really hasn't actually accomplished anything yet, but what he's proposed is broadly unpopular. The travel ban, the wall, the deportation force, Trumpcare, his budget...all of these are unpopular. Other policies he's flip-flopping on too fast to really judge. People liked his decision to dust off a Syrian airfield with a few dozen Tomahawks well enough, I guess. But you don't get to 40% approval in the first three months of your presidency by accident, or by merely alienating the opposing party.





Rather than me trying to list all of his failures, scandals, flip-flops and f*ck-ups, maybe you'd be willing to list the accomplishments he's secured thus far that encourage you to judge his competence favorably?

(I will say this: What's most amazing to me is that we don't have to worry about the bias of the mainstream media, because Trump seems eager to talk about his own incompetence! "Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?" Coming out of his meeting with Xi Jinping, for which he apparently couldn't be bothered to read a one-page briefer, “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy. I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power over North Korea. But it’s not what you would think.”)

He started at about 35%. He's working his way up. He's actually less unpopular than Hillary now.

MSM never gives you perspective. He's not any more popular among Democrats, but is solidifying his support among skeptical Republicans.

The travel ban, the wall and his budget are not unpopular outside the Democratic party. There is no deportation force. Now, Ryancare was a flop, but everyone knows Obamacare is a failure and needs at least to have major changes.

You may not like what he has accomplished, but he has convinced several manufacturers to expand in America, he has cut government jobs while private sector jobs are increasing at a very high rate, he has gotten China to try to reign in North Korea, he has done away with the official lie that Syria got rid of their weapons of mass destruction, he made quick decisions on Syria instead of dithering (word used by Obama administration officials to describe their own administration, he has apparently gotten more aggressive in attacking ISIS, his UN ambassador has challenged the hypocritical UN attacks on Israel, his policies have drastically reduced illegal immigration (since they might get kicked out), he has gotten rid of numerous expensive regulations that he believes kill jobs, he has reversed several Obama administration policies dictating polices to state and local governments and he got a conservative justice appointed despite nearly unanimous vigorous opposition from the Democrats. If you agree with those things, its a good start with healthcare the only failure so far. The MSM doesn't like those things, so they paint a picture of an administration in total disarray that hasn't gotten anything done, without any perspective as to how they compare with prior administrations. He is supposedly flip-flopping when he's never been detail oriented or an idealogue. He is still consistent on his big picture. Everything else is negotiable for him.

He sure wasn't my 1st choice for president (or 5th or 10th or...). He's impulsive, rude, creates too many enemies with his language, too open to negotiation without principles IMO, but the media portrayal of him is fake news. They alternately paint him as a bumbler or a deadly efficient anti-Christ. And he's a far right facist or an inconsistent part of the moderate establishment betraying his voters. It would be funny if their efforts weren't so pathetic and so frequently patently dishonest.

[Iconographer]

Frankly, I think that in the end media overexposure will do Ossoff in. I and about everyone I know are so sick of seeing his face. I think his chances would be have been better if his handlers had bought about half the airtime they did. As it is, voter curiosity has been piqued by this gross saturation, inquiries are being made and they are finding out what a lightweight he really is.

[JPD]

They're all lightweights. Let's be honest.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

Frankly, I think that in the end media overexposure will do Ossoff in. I and about everyone I know are so sick of seeing his face. I think his chances would be have been better if his handlers had bought about half the airtime they did. As it is, voter curiosity has been piqued by this gross saturation, inquiries are being made and they are finding out what a lightweight he really is.

I voted for the guy. He certainly isn't my ideal candidate but it is what it is. He can't win if it comes down to a runoff situation so his only hope is to get the percentage outright. I have discussed this with several neighbors/friends who are also Democrats and they aren't voting for the guy. That is going to be his undoing. If Democrats come out to vote he can win. Same thing (among many) that sunk Hillary in November. She didn't get the turnout.

[Cameron H]

Originally Posted by bu2

He started at about 35%. He's working his way up.

"Working his way up."