Atlanta's Cityhood Movement (Jackson, Between, Jacksonville: 2015, how much, neighborhoods)

[cqholt]

Between 2005 and 2015, eight unincorporated neighborhoods in Georgia’s three largest counties—Fulton, Gwinnett, and DeKalb—voted to form their own cities. In doing so, they rejected the county’s political leadership and withdrew much of their resources from the county’s tax pool. Prior to incorporation, all of these areas were putting more money into the county via taxes than they got back in services. Pulling their money out of the county pool has thus been a boon for these new cities, which can reprioritize and increase services to meet the needs of their more homogeneous constituencies without raising taxes.


For those left behind in unincorporated parts of these counties, however, the cityhood movement has been disastrous. Data on the overall economic impact of the movement doesn’t yet exist, but the withdrawals of wealthy enclaves have left county governments with a recurring and unpleasant choice: raise taxes or provide less. In 2012, Fulton County’s manager calculated that the cityhood movement had cost the county $38 million per year.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...tlanta/523884/

[ronricks]

I don't blame anyone for withdrawing to pay less and receive better services. You would be a fool not to do such. DeKalb is going to be the one most impacted by this. Especially if the Briarcliff/Lavista corridor ever votes to get out.

[demonta4]

Is Fulton the only non-consolidated fully incorporated county in Georgia?

[JPD]

Originally Posted by ronricks

DeKalb is going to be the one most impacted by this. Especially if the Briarcliff/Lavista corridor ever votes to get out.

They did vote a couple years ago, and it failed pretty spectacularly. Probably because the movement was hijacked by lying scumbags like Fran Millar.

[primaltech]

Here's a silly idea. They should just take the 5 counties, and incorporate/combine everything to become one city of Atlanta, with 5 counties/boroughs, like NYC did. Dissolve all the other cities, and make them all neighborhoods of Atlanta. Give everything an Atlanta address, with city-provided services.

Then I believe we'd be the second largest city proper in the country, behind only NYC.

Also it would solve a lot of our regional dysfunction type problems. Transit, being the big one. And other, less tangible cultural battles and discord would be diminished if not eliminated. And the Braves would be in Atlanta again!

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Here's a silly idea. They should just take the 5 counties, and incorporate/combine everything to become one city of Atlanta, with 5 counties/boroughs, like NYC did. Dissolve all the other cities, and make them all neighborhoods of Atlanta. Give everything an Atlanta address, with city-provided services.

Then I believe we'd be the second largest city proper in the country, behind only NYC.

Also it would solve a lot of our regional dysfunction type problems. Transit, being the big one. And other, less tangible cultural battles and discord would be diminished if not eliminated. And the Braves would be in Atlanta again!

Incorrect, Anchorage and Jacksonville are the largest city propers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cities_by_area

[primaltech]

Most populous, I meant

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by JPD

They did vote a couple years ago, and it failed pretty spectacularly. Probably because the movement was hijacked by lying scumbags like Fran Millar.

Hence if they vote again. Losing all that tax money would cripple DeKalb.

[Forhall]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Hence if they vote again. Losing all that tax money would cripple DeKalb.

You sound gleeful about that. People always have the "i got mine, i dont want to help anyone else" mentality until they're the ones in need.

For example, while you're laughing at rural Dekalb if Lavista pulls out, NY and California are laughing at Georgia if THEY decide to pull out. You live in a bubble and don't realize how much wealth there is outside of Atlanta metro, and how much your own services are paid for by people wealthier than you. How much is Georgia paying for the i85 bridge repair? Less than 10% thanks to the federal government, and you can thank the RESPONSIBLE people of California, NY, etc for understanding that just because theyre prosperous doesn't mean they should just pull out and go home. They understand that their tax money goes to helping people in other states and regions they will never meet, yet they do it anyway because we are all citizens of one country and should be helping each other instead of being selfish as*holes.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by Forhall

Less than 10% thanks to the federal government, and you can thank the RESPONSIBLE people of California, NY, etc for understanding that just because theyre prosperous doesn't mean they should just pull out and go home. They understand that their tax money goes to helping people in other states and regions they will never meet, yet they do it anyway because we are all citizens of one country and should be helping each other instead of being selfish as*holes.

Go to Cali and NYC and you'll here the same complaining about their tax dollars going to poorer states.

Source: Used to live in NYC.