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I'm honestly beginning to think that lights in Atlanta are purposefully timed to stop as much movement as possible. Listening to some of the fabrics talk, it would not surprise me one bit if any of them were involved in such planning.
That's the only realistic explanation for the timing of the lights on Clifton Road from Briarcliff to Emory. Especially since it is practically the turf of a university. At most universities they plan their campus to make car drivers uncomfortable, not as a byproduct of the design but actually as part of the plan.
There's one in Conyers that's just too small. Only one vehicle can really use it at time, turning it into a three-way stop that makes vehicles travel a little farther than a simple T-junction would. The only real use the roundabout has is displaying an artsy fountain, that always freezes over in winter.
Most of the roundabouts I've seen are single lane. Are there any double lane ones?
I'm not sure about the Atlanta Metro, but I've seen plenty of multi-lane roundabouts elsewhere.
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I would like to hear what the bike and pedestrian advocates think about them. It seems to me roundabouts are mainly about moving cars rapidly and they could be challenging for people on foot or on a bicycle.
I will guarantee you that they hate them. Without question.
Most of the roundabouts I've seen are single lane. Are there any double lane ones?
Not that I am aware of here. Houston has a busy 3 lane one at Montrose/Hermann Dr./S. Main near the Texas Medical Center with the Mecom Fountain in the middle. They're pretty tricky when its that busy.
That's the only realistic explanation for the timing of the lights on Clifton Road from Briarcliff to Emory. Especially since it is practically the turf of a university. At most universities they plan their campus to make car drivers uncomfortable, not as a byproduct of the design but actually as part of the plan.
I can understand the confusion with old school traffic "rotaries" and traffic circles.
However, with the modern roundabout folks ought to be able to drive through pretty seamlessly.
You regularly find people who don't understand what they are supposed to do. People who think drivers in the circle are supposed to yield to drivers outside the circle, drivers who think the yield is a stop. Particularly at Emory where you have a lot of people going to the hospital who have no experience with them.
I would like to hear what the bike and pedestrian advocates think about them. It seems to me roundabouts are mainly about moving cars rapidly and they could be challenging for people on foot or on a bicycle.
The one at Emory is designed to help pedestrians. They are what cause the biggest backups. When you have a stream of students, it can get hard for the people on Oxford (N or S) to get into the circle.
You regularly find people who don't understand what they are supposed to do. People who think drivers in the circle are supposed to yield to drivers outside the circle, drivers who think the yield is a stop. Particularly at Emory where you have a lot of people going to the hospital who have no experience with them.
To be fair, there are traffic circles which evidently differ from roundabouts with regards to who yields to whom. Although most I've seen here have been roundabouts with a clearly marked yield sign for traffic entering them. Hopefully people will get used to them. They really are great when used properly.
I would like to hear what the bike and pedestrian advocates think about them. It seems to me roundabouts are mainly about moving cars rapidly and they could be challenging for people on foot or on a bicycle.
I have no problem using them on my bicycle, altho I am cautious when going around and make very certain that cars waiting to enter see me.
The ones near us seem to have sufficient room for pedestrians. The crosswalks are set back from the roundabout with enough room to fit one car between the crosswalk and the circle. There is a hazard with drivers not looking for pedestrians that far away from the intersection.
At most universities they plan their campus to make car drivers uncomfortable, not as a byproduct of the design but actually as part of the plan.
As they should. College campuses are for people, not cars.
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