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View Poll Results: Who wins the 6th?
Karen Handel 26 40.00%
Jon Ossoff 39 60.00%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-19-2017, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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But Hillary won the majority vote, and won the three counties that make up the GA-6th.
Only parts of Fulton, Cobb, and DeKalb counties are in the 6th district, and each of these portions are more Republican than the counties as a whole.

I think Democrats in the district (I'm just a few miles outside in the 11th) are going to be disappointed tomorrow. With higher turnout, results are more predictably reflective of the default partisanship of the district - which is Republican, as was drawn intentionally by Georgia's majority Republican legislature following the 2010 census. Handel comes across as a fairly standard Republican politician, so she isn't likely to lose many votes of those who specifically don't care for the president but otherwise support the party.

 
Old 06-19-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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"FINALLY, 6th District Voters Head To The Polls" (Political Rewind/Georgia Public Broadcasting radio)
FINALLY, 6th District Voters Head To The Polls | Georgia Public Broadcasting
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Today on “Political Rewind,” the hotly-contested 6th District race is almost upon us! Voters (who haven’t already early voted!) go to the polls tomorrow to make the choice between Karen Handel and Jon Ossoff. If you enjoy reading the political fine print as much as we do, you might want to check out this page from Politico.

Money, money, money: this race, with a total estimated price tag of $50 million dollars, is the most expensive Congressional race the country has ever seen. But money isn't the most jaw-dropping aspect of this campaign thanks to an incendiary new commercial that’s raising hackles on both sides of the aisle. The spot, paid for with PAC money, refers to the "unhinged left" and ties the Scalise shooting to the Democratic Party. Both campaigns have denounced the messaging in the ad.

Despite all the attention on tomorrow's election, we can't ignore the constant flow of news coming out of the Trump White House. Is Trump under investigation by Robert Mueller or not? Statements and tweets conflict.

Panelists:

Jim Galloway — Political Columnist, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Greg Bluestein — Political Writer, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Brian Robinson — Republican Consultant

Mary Margaret Oliver — Democratic State Representative, Decatur

Rusty Paul — Mayor, Sandy Springs
 
Old 06-19-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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This race was featured on ABC World News Tonight with David Muir this evening.
 
Old 06-19-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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The best thing about the voting being tomorrow is that we can stop hearing all the incessant ads for "Jon Ossoff the LIBERAL DEMOCRAT WHO WILL RUBBER STAMP PELOSI'S LIBERAL AGENDDAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" and "Karen Handle bought office chairs on your dime!"
 
Old 06-19-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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I am in Brookhaven both me and my wife voted early for Ossoff. At a party this weekend on my street a lot of people were saying they had voted early for Ossoff. Looking at my street the Handel signs are mainly outside older residents homes. Handel is not popular with educated women IMHO. I think it will be a pretty close vote.
 
Old 06-19-2017, 09:21 PM
 
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The best thing about the voting being tomorrow is that we can stop hearing all the incessant ads for "Jon Ossoff the LIBERAL DEMOCRAT WHO WILL RUBBER STAMP PELOSI'S LIBERAL AGENDDAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" and "Karen Handle bought office chairs on your dime!"
...But the bad thing is that those incessant ads will more than likely be back with a vengeance just next year for the mid-term congressional and statewide/gubernatorial elections.

Those incessant ads will especially be back next year if Ossoff wins or suffers a very narrow defeat.

An Ossoff win or even a very narrow Ossoff defeat will signal (particularly to Democratic and Progressive political interest groups) that Georgia has trended even closer to joining neighboring and nearby states like Florida, North Carolina and Virginia in the category of Southeastern battleground states that can swing either way in elections with national politically strategic implications.
 
Old 06-19-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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"Georgia special election tweets traced to one source...
A Trump-supporting social media guru is flooding Twitter with grass roots-appearing messages against Democrat Jon Ossoff." (POLITICO Magazine)

Georgia special election tweets traced to one source - POLITICO

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With Georgia’s special House election going down to the wire, it’s no shock that Twitter is saturated with Democrat Jon Ossoff and Republican Karen Handel. But what is surprising is just how much of the traffic traces to a single, identifiable source.

Accounts related to one entrepreneurial Donald Trump supporter, Robert Shelton, aka @RobertsRooms, have flooded hashtags about the 6th Congressional District election with anti-Ossoff and pro-Handel messaging.

“DON'T VOTE FOR #NEVEROSSOFF,” one wrote early Friday morning. “HIS BIG MONEY DONORS OWN HIM.”

“Inexperienced? Immature? That's #Ossoff. Vote 4 #KarenHandel,” tweeted another on Thursday evening.

“Who would Alexandria shooter James Hodgkinson vote for in Georgia 6th District?” asked a third in text superimposed on the alleged gunman’s mugshot. “#Ossoff of course! #GA06 do you really want to vote 4 more Democrat insanity?”

Oddly, each account also tagged tweets with a seemingly unrelated hashtag: #RobertsRooms. These accounts used #RobertsRooms at least 20 times since Thursday in posts about the Ossoff-Handel race.

This hashtag is peppered throughout Twitter chatter about the special election, and especially screeds against Ossoff. Twitter’s search algorithm even correlates #RobertsRooms with campaign hashtags.

At a time when more and more political campaigning is shifting to social media — and voters may be likelier to respond to an authentic-seeming tweet than a slick TV ad — such a distinct calling card offers a rare opportunity to trace the impact of a single player in the online influence game.

Like many social media operatives, Shelton doesn’t broadcast his offline identity. But the bio for @RobertsRooms indicates that the account’s owner is CEO of PlanetStuff Inc. Records filed with the Georgia state government show a business by that name registered to Robert Shelton, with an address in the wooded suburbs northeast of Atlanta.

A now-defunct Twitter account under the name “Robert Shelton,” which posted as recently as February, now redirects to @RobertsRooms.

Shelton, via Twitter, confirmed his network is working to promote Handel, but he said it is a strictly personal project. He did not respond to questions about whether, or how much, he paid Twitter users to put out his messages.

“The only affiliation we or I have with Karen's campaign is that I live in District 06 and prefer her to Jon,” Shelton wrote. The Handel campaign emphasized they have no ties.

“We have not contracted with Robert, and he has no affiliation with this campaign," said Kate Constantini, campaign spokeswoman for Handel.

Shelton said he has worked for other campaigns since the 2016 presidential election, including the New York City mayoral campaign of Michel Faulkner, who pivoted to run for NYC Comptroller in late May.

Shelton pitches his social media marketing to “America 1st” political candidates. In one promo, he boasts of having “Social Media WARRIORS In EVERY TOWN Across EVERY STATE” with a network of 5 million Twitter followers, and lists “in-house meme creation” among his services. One post indicates that he pays “retweeters.”
 
Old 06-20-2017, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Republican wins easily in that red state. Montana went the same way for Zinke's old seat.

Dems get all excited, but one visit down south talking to people and you realize they will never change. She wins no problem.
And you know any of this how, Tom?

With the exception of a jetBlue flight to Ft. Lauderdale, have you ever been SOUTH of Philadelphia?
 
Old 06-20-2017, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Dems get all excited, but one visit down south talking to people and you realize they will never change.
4.5 million people in California voted for Trump, 3 million in Pennsylvania, 2.8 million in Ohio, 2.8 million in New York, 2.2 million in Michigan, 2.1 million in Illinois, and only 2 million Trump voters in Georgia. And half that much in the other southern states. If you wanted to talk to some morons, you wasted a plane ticket.

It's funny because personally all my cousins up north, mostly in Minnesota, are all super conservatives, and all my large extended family here in Georgia are all liberal.

If somebody up north actually took a visit here and actually bothered to talk to any of the 50% or more of us who are not Republicans, they'd realize the ignorance of statements like yours.
 
Old 06-20-2017, 04:26 AM
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Location: Florida
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Wow.
Yes, "wow," but many of those folks believe it. The refusal to acknowledge the reality that other people suffer is not just incidental but the result of deliberate crafting of the narrative by those who oppose anti-discrimination and who would prefer to regress to a system where certain privileges, whether it be race, religion, ethnicity, or simply wealth, benefit from institutionalized injustice.

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Those incessant ads will especially be back next year if Ossoff wins or suffers a very narrow defeat.
Probably: no matter what. One of the biggest of the underlying reasons for the right-wing's dogged opposition and obstruction of everything that the previous administration tried to do was because its strategists understood that if once people have a taste of how more justice in society benefits them or someone they know, it is going to take extreme measures to achieve the regression desired and maintain it for the long term. Electioneering is just the tip of the iceberg in that regard. To shake people away from acknowledging and processing the reality that supporting regression favored by the right will likely adversely affect people the voter knows, it is necessary to drown out that reality through whatever means necessary.

Even now we see the mathematics in play: How many people who will lose the benefits that they enjoy due to the ACA changes, including coverage for previous conditions, can be convinced that losing what they now have won't hurt that badly, or can be convinced that despite the non-partisan analysis showing what they'll lose they will somehow be exempt from the loss? No one is going into these elections thinking, "Wow I'm taking advantage of these changes made by the previous administration but I'd be happier being deprived of these things I have come to expect." The only way to overcome the downside of the reality that you're aiming for regression is to beat the drum more and more and louder and louder trying to drown out that which would inform voters of what a vote for regression really means.

In a previous generation, it was the left with the message that couldn't be justified. We've all seen the graphs showing income inequality's shocking trend. Before the 1980s top 10% of earner garnered roughly 35% of total US income. With the remaining 65% distributed among the rest, it was easy to craft a true and compelling narrative supporting the right's aims, which outlined for a good majority of Americans why they would benefit. The left had to "beat the drum more and more and louder and louder trying to drown out that which would inform voters of what a vote for" liberalism really meant. For most people back then it meant relatively bad news: For most people back then, liberalism meant taking a financial hit in the interest of ideals. So the left had to cajole folks into supporting perspectives that worked against their own personal interests, touting ideals over personal gain.

No longer. The success of the right over the last thirty five years has led to where we are now where the reality no longer supports the right's intentions. With the advantages of regression directed overwhelmingly toward a small and still shrinking number of Americans, the left's challenge now is to inform, and it is the right that now needs to obfuscate, deceive, and otherwise drown out the truth in order to retain sufficient support. As the number of Americans who benefit from the regressive policies of the right get even smaller, we can expect even more and more of the "incessant ads" you refer to and all the related extreme electioneering (political sign stealing/burning, for example) that we've seen in this recent election.
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