How will rising temperatures affect the ATL? (assault, climate)

[arjay57]

I think what they're saying is that places that are already hot will feel the pain more than places that are naturally cooler.

[demonta4]

People don't seem to mind tropical climates, so how would higher temps turn people away from moving here (other than the lack of breeze from a body of water since we're at a pretty high elevation anyway)

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by demonta4

People don't seem to mind tropical climates, so how would higher temps turn people away from moving here (other than the lack of breeze from a body of water since we're at a pretty high elevation anyway)

Because it's one of a number of factors all coming together to make living here harder. Less access to water, higher susceptibility to wildfire, less pleasant living environment, etc.

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

It's the whole world that's heating up, Matt, not just the south. This has been measured and reviewed and showed to be fact.

Not by any credible scientists it hasn't.

[CA_Vol]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Not by any credible scientists it hasn't.

The climate change hysteria has become a pseudo-religion at this point. Although, it's more like Islam than Christianity - believe or prepare for the assault.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Not by any credible scientists it hasn't.

I can't fathom how you'd think that, considering the entire Intelligence Community, all the Branches of the Military, independent agencies like NASA, and agencies of commerce like NOAA all share the same conclusions as 97% of published climatologists: Global Warming is real, and is human caused.

To say no credible scientists think so, is a simple dismissal of reality, and is surprising coming from you.

Originally Posted by CA_Vol

The climate change hysteria has become a pseudo-religion at this point. Although, it's more like Islam than Christianity - believe or prepare for the assault.

Unlike a religion, though, the peer review, actual data, and reality of physics in general shows that the climate is changing, and the world is heating up, and that it's caused by human.

Ironically, far more like a religion, denial relies on not accepting the data, and rather taking things on faith whether or not there's actually a real reason to believe it.

Oh, and if you don't think Christianity doesn't, and hasn't had plenty of assault for unbelievers then I think you're forgetting your history, contemporary and further back alike.

[ipkl07]

In the bible belt don't you guys simply pray about it and some gray bearded dude is like oh wow I have a prayer request I'll jump right on it? If only it worked like that. My understanding is places will have more extremes, such as more extreme heat, extreme droughts, extreme rain, extreme weather. You can't pray things away. You have to take action to prevent it as much as you can !!!! One thing that ticks me off is this talk about relocating to another planet. Give me a break!!! We get one shot at this, so lets not screw it up, pollute it, or ruin it. Why not clean it up and take the best care of it we can? I sure as heck wouldn't want to live in the southeastern USA where it's so hot you can barely breath with trash all over, or the southwestern USA when they run out of water. When all this comes into full swing in another 40 or so years. Millions will be displaced. Not sure I'd really want to stick around to see it to be perfectly honest.

[demonta4]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Because it's one of a number of factors all coming together to make living here harder. Less access to water, higher susceptibility to wildfire, less pleasant living environment, etc.

We already have a water shortage solution in our own metro already

Clayton among top 'water wise' communities | News | news-daily.com

Clayton Water Authority designated

[ronricks]

It was hotter 200 years ago in the South and there weren't SUV's or factories like there are today. The climate has been changing up and down for thousands of years. It goes in cycles.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by ronricks

It was hotter 200 years ago in the South and there weren't SUV's or factories like there are today. The climate has been changing up and down for thousands of years. It goes in cycles.

Could you provide a source for that? NOAA lists out the average temperature by state from 1895 to 2015.

Alabama -> +~0.5 °F
Arkansas -> +~1.0 °F
Delaware -> +~3.5 °F
Florida -> +~1.5 °F
Georgia -> +~1.0 °F
Kentucky -> +~2.0 °F
Louisiana -> +~1.0 °F
Maryland -> +~3.0 °F
Mississippi -> +~0.5 °F
North Carolina -> +~1.5 °F
Oklahoma -> +~2.0 °F
South Carolina -> +~1.0 °F
Tennessee -> +~1.0 °F
Texas -> +~2.0 °F
Virginia -> +~1.5 °F
West Virginia -> +~1.5 °F

Every state in the American Southeast has increased its average annual temperature from 1895, though that is only 120 years ago. Given average global temps, I have a hard time believing that the south was that much warmer going further back only 70 years.


20,000 years ago, a -4.25 degree C diversion from the 1960-1990 average meant a mile thick ice sheet covering where Boston is today. For the past 10,000 years or so of human history, the temperature has only varied within ±0.75 degrees C of that average. We've already reached a +1 degree C diversion today.


The difference, though, is that, where it took 11,000 years to go from -4.25 to the zero mark, we've increased roughly 1.25 degrees C (since the beginning of direct recordings started in 1850, when the world was cooler on average than the 1960-1990 average) in nearly 170 years.


That's 29% of what it took 11,000 years to do, in just 1.5% of the time, with every indication that we're just going to get hotter, faster.


Sure things go in cycles, but those are cycles of thousands and thousands of years, not a couple of centuries, or even a few decades as we're seeing now. The last time the world was close to as hot as it is now was 7,000 years ago, and even that was still cooler than today. The last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere, humans didn't exist.