Confederate Ave. residents meet to discuss street name change (Atlanta: gated, cost)

[demonta4]

Originally Posted by antinimby

These statues have been there for decades. No one cared or said anything until now and all of a sudden, it causes pain. Please.

Actually there has always been outrage, but now that we have widespread internet word is spreading faster, just like police brutality has been exposed. You do know that these "memorials" were erected in the 60's as a **** you to blacks. Just like the Confederate battle flag was brought back as a symbol of racism.

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

I'm certainly not going to depend on you and your high-flown, solipsistic attitude to interpret it for me. Grow up a little, acquire some intellectual honesty and get back to me in 20 years.

You're going to deny that many of these "memorials" weren't erected with the intent of intimidating black people? It's not a matter of interpretation. It's the literal historical record. Lol at "intellectual honesty." Quite rich coming from the side performing mental gymnastics to reason why these monuments are justifiable.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by demonta4

Actually there has always been outrage, but now that we have widespread internet word is spreading faster, just like police brutality has been exposed. You do know that these "memorials" were erected in the 60's as a **** you to blacks. Just like the Confederate battle flag was brought back as a symbol of racism.

Precisely, but most of those statues/monuments were erected much earlier than the 60's. What we really started seeing in the late 50's/60's are a bunch of schools in the South named after Confederates, but some would argue that Brown v Board and school desegregation efforts had absolutely nothing to do with that. And then you have the resurrection of the Confederate flag, which pretty much disappeared at the end of the Civil War up until the beginning of the Civil Rights movement.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by bu2

The first question is how it got that name. Was it named after the Confederacy or does it have some different derivation?

The old Confederate Soldiers Home was located there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confed...ldiers%27_Home, with Streetcar service from East Atlanta

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by cqholt

The old Confederate Soldiers Home was located there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confed...ldiers%27_Home, with Streetcar service from East Atlanta

Touche. Now everyone can put their hair out. Or not.

[demonta4]

Originally Posted by cqholt

The old Confederate Soldiers Home was located there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confed...ldiers%27_Home, with Streetcar service from East Atlanta

Off topic, but it's funny (as a black person specifically) that confederate Atlanta had better transit than we do today, but anyway I would change the name to Union Ave just like Fort McPherson was renamed.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by demonta4

Off topic, but it's funny (as a black person specifically) that confederate Atlanta had better transit than we do today, but anyway I would change the name to Union Ave just like Fort McPherson was renamed.

All this would be avoided if Atlanta had numbered streets and avenues.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

You're going to deny that many of these "memorials" weren't erected with the intent of intimidating black people? It's not a matter of interpretation. It's the literal historical record. Lol at "intellectual honesty." Quite rich coming from the side performing mental gymnastics to reason why these monuments are justifiable.

What evidence do you have that this was done with such an intent? Quotes? Documentation of said agenda? Or did you get in the Wayback Machine and interview those responsible?
When I look at the monuments, if it evokes any feelings it would be a sense of loss and regret for such a wrongheaded and wasteful conflict that cost an almost unfathomable amount of human capital...like all wars.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

I'm certainly not going to depend on you and your high-flown, solipsistic attitude to interpret it for me. Grow up a little, acquire some intellectual honesty and get back to me in 20 years.

And with that, you're being beyond ridiculous. This is beneath you.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by JPD

And with that, you're being beyond ridiculous. This is beneath you.

But no consideration or criticism for those that I respond to, of course. It's not coming out of the blue.