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Old 06-15-2018, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Need4Camaro View Post
Those HOT lanes on I-95 in VA remind me of the same thing on I-75 in Henry County... but...done a good bit better.

Im not a fan of the NW Coridoor... it looks very sloppy and poorly thought out.
And this sloppy treatment is coming to I-285 above I-20 and other freeways.

I’m going to try to get local news to do a story on the excess clutter.

 
Old 06-16-2018, 03:58 AM
 
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Comedian Lewis Black talking about Atlanta traffic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7TWaO961Jo

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Old 06-16-2018, 06:07 AM
 
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Interesting link on the history of Atlanta traffic.

https://atlantafoodwalks.com/2018/03...lanta-traffic/
 
Old 06-16-2018, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Comedian Lewis Black talking about Atlanta traffic:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7TWaO961Jo
Haha. That rant is highly relatable.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: East Side of ATL
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Go look at how gorgeous the new I-95 reversible lanes are in Virginia, or any other HOT lane addition anywhere in the country....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WxEFeylhDWU

To see that ours will be the laughing stock because of the gauntlets of overhead and visual clutter....
As many times that I've visited home, I never noticed the ETL in VA went from 2 lanes to 3.

I'm still amazed they were able to put 2 lanes in each direction on I-95 north of Baltimore and they have approved expansion for it further out into Harford County now. That's what I was hoping for for 75 on the southside. Same as 95 in Northern VA, the reversible lanes are in the wrong direction and traffic still jams up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqUnYvbCHXs
 
Old 06-16-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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Interesting link on the history of Atlanta traffic.

https://atlantafoodwalks.com/2018/03...lanta-traffic/
Uhhhh..."Atlanta drivers spend 10% of their time sitting in traffic".

10% of what? Of all time is 2.4 hours a day. Of awake hours? About 1.6 hours per day? Of hours dedicated to work and commute? 1 hour each weekday? 10% of the commute? That's not bad...that means 90% is not spent in traffic.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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Uhhhh..."Atlanta drivers spend 10% of their time sitting in traffic".

10% of what? Of all time is 2.4 hours a day. Of awake hours? About 1.6 hours per day? Of hours dedicated to work and commute? 1 hour each weekday? 10% of the commute? That's not bad...that means 90% is not spent in traffic.
Moaning about traffic has become a popular past time for many.

However, the average commute in the ATL is around 30 minutes, give or take a few. That's pretty darn good for a metro of 6 million people.

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Old 06-16-2018, 07:13 PM
 
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The Miami section of the Florida Turnpike is a similar to this. There is no toll plaza. They just send you the a bill.
Many of Texas Toll roads are also like this.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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As noted above, no transit alternatives are needed to see benefits of congestion tolling. But even still, we have the best transit system in the south east recently funded it's largest expansion in history (More MARTA), added a new county with commuter rail in the works (Clayton), and the state recently approved a new massive regional transit effort (The ATL).

Too many things people claim we cannot do until we have better transit. They are wrong. There is no reasonable level of transit that will satisfy their requests.

Things like Floridia's private Brightline Rail would not be viable if the alternative was not $20 in tolls. Drivers need to face real financial choices if transit is going to have a level playing field.
What are the financial consequences that train riders have to deal with?

Also, only a handful of extremist think we have enough transit alternatives to charge congestion tolling and thankfully they aren’t in charge of of these decisions.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I don't even understand how anyone thinks congestion pricing is appropriate or applicable I assume to the downtown area.

The secondary streets aren't overly crowded with too much traffic and flow quite well almost all day.

Does someone want to charge a congestion toll for using the Downtown Connector?

Is that the goal to dissuade a significant number of people from using it in order to improve flow?

Because that's very different from NYC's situation of more cars and delivery trucks than the narrow streets can handle, thus overly polluting the air breathed by pedestrians.

By the way, New Yorkers all support charging to drive in the central district, and it begins in phases starting next year.


But right now it's going to be too weak to make a big difference by not charging liveries or individual cars coming in from the boroughs or something like that.

It's going to begin with yet another surcharge for taxis and fortunately one for uber rides.

It cost about $8 to go 2 blocks in a cab now.


And taxi medallions that were going for over 1 million just a few years ago are now selling for $170,000.
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