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Old 06-11-2018, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Just saw on CBS that there is a significant building fire on Auburn Ave. near Bell St. Anyone in the area with any info?
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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Just saw on CBS that there is a significant building fire on Auburn Ave. near Bell St. Anyone in the area with any info?
There are stories on both the AJC and WSB websites. Looks like it was this building on Auburn. Trying to find out more, but the endless streams of ads made me just close the page instead.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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There are stories on both the AJC and WSB websites. Looks like it was this building on Auburn.
Thanks. From the looks of it, this building appears to need replacing. I just hope no one was injured.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Renovations, yes. Replacing, no.

We got to lower the barriers to keeping our existing buildings up to date. Leveling buildings for new ones is just too expensive and causes us to lose character in our cities.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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Renovations, yes. Replacing, no.

We got to lower the barriers to keeping our existing buildings up to date. Leveling buildings for new ones is just too expensive and causes us to lose character in our cities.
If it had that big of a fire, the costs to renovate it are probably more than the building is worth. It doesn't appear to be historically significant, and is valued at only $343k. Looks like it was being used as a music and event venue, hosting trap parties and silent dance parties.
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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If it had that big of a fire, the costs to renovate it are probably more than the building is worth. It doesn't appear to be historically significant, and is valued at only $343k. Looks like it was being used as a music and event venue, hosting trap parties and silent dance parties.
I am talking about before the fire. And more the huge barriers and costs to restoring a building like this that I know all too well first hand from restoring a similar building.

Basically our current laws make it so if you want to do any improvements to the building / make it usable again you can expect to have to spend multiple times what the existing building is worth. And thus it is often cheaper to just tear old buildings down instead of bringing them "up to code".

Atlanta really needs to adopt the International Existing Building Code ASAP.
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Duluth, GA
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Leveling buildings for new ones is just too expensive and causes us to lose character in our cities.
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And thus it is often cheaper to just tear old buildings down instead of bringing them "up to code".
Am I the only one seeing a contradiction here?
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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Am I the only one seeing a contradiction here?
I'd say the latter is correct. its MUCH cheaper to demolish buildings and build new ones in their place in current code standard than to bring an older building up to current code.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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I'd say the latter is correct. its MUCH cheaper to demolish buildings and build new ones in their place in current code standard than to bring an older building up to current code.
What's suppose to happen is the renovations and re-proposing the old building increases its value accordingly and others get it and a new gentrifying neighborhood happens.

Happens a lot up North. Even warehousing becomes loft-living and new restaurants, grocery chains move in and infill other residential and offices too. The city upgrades streets and if smart adds trees and such.

Sometimes I'm surprised at what gets saved. But it becomes like that old rusting Camaro find .... you restore it and jack it up and a NEW value is in it.

In seeing the street-view of the possible fire building. The area is clearly near the downtown and should be ripe for new investment new or re-purposed old-stock. A mix is generally best as this area should keep its urban built.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:28 PM
 
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Am I the only one seeing a contradiction here?
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I'd say the latter is correct. its MUCH cheaper to demolish buildings and build new ones in their place in current code standard than to bring an older building up to current code.
Exactly. The "code" is the problem. It should not be cheaper to tear down and build anew instead of simply refreshing an older building.
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