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Old 04-04-2008, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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With immigration as it is, coupled with natural population increase and domestic migration, you have to have a place for people to live. Everyone cannot fit, nor cram into the city limits. Thus, you have to expand outward. Unless you want to have huge slums, as is found in third world countries, you have to have people move farther from the city core. This takes more land. Americans' preference is single family homes. You need land, therefore you have to build where there is land. People follow where the environment is favorable, costs are low, and the job market is good. Therefore, you have to make a place for these people. Atlanta has been favored, as have many cities, so subdivisions have popped up everywhere, which have momentarily over-extended many two-lane roads which haven't kept up with population. With the people come the businesses (shopping centers: your classic "sprawl development). This is unavoidable, unless you want to try to convince the majority of people to live on tiny lots in the city, or unless you want to stop people from moving to metro Atlanta. The latter, courtesy of limiting developers, is more likely than convincing most people to purchase homes on tiny lots in the city proper. Pre-automobile cities are the product of the era prior to World War II when everything was built side-by-side, and close-in, before the Eisenhower Interstate System and the GI Bill loans.
Question for you. Why was Los Angeles (and much of suburban California for that matter) based on a grid pattern, even in Post-WWII developement? Yes, SoCal is sprawl central, but they understood the need to keep tiny lots even in subdivisions. And now metropolitan LA has one of the higher population densities in America as every square foot of land has been developed from the San Fernando Valley all the way to Orange County and then inward to the Inland Empire.

Atlanta is just way too convoluted. LA is a grid network. Both cities are poster children of sprawl and both developed post WW-II. Still I think LA is much more urbanized than Atlanta. What are your thoughts on this?
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:10 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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Atlanta is just way too convoluted. LA is a grid network. Both cities are poster children of sprawl and both developed post WW-II. Still I think LA is much more urbanized than Atlanta. What are your thoughts on this?
I think most people are unaware of the history involved with Georgia cities. Atlanta used to be called "Terminus" because it was just a railroad depot transfer area for the rail lines in the 1800s. Savannah was "planned" to be the large port city of Georgia long before then. Everything laid out in a grid, with parks scattered throughout the city, etc. Atlanta was never supposed to grow into a real city - Savannah was supposed to be the South's version of Manhattan eventually.

For whatever reason, that never happened. Savannah remained a smaller port city while Atlanta began to grow. From that point it was just a case of leader after leader with poor foresight as to what was happening, and by the time they realized Atlanta was going to explode it was too late. The roads by that point looked like someone just tossed spaghetti onto a plate. It was too late to "grid it". Hence, here we are today.
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