Trash in Piedmont Park's lake leaves questions about its maintenance

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

“That’s Not My Job”

This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have.

Great point!!

And if people don't want to personally pick up trash (or refrain from throwing it on the ground in the first place), the very least they can do is send money to the Conservancy.

[architect77]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

In Midtown there are ~40,000 full time residents, 30,000 students, 150,000 office workers, and ever fluctuating amount of tourists crammed in to a 3 square mile area every day. There is going to be trash where it shouldn't be no matter how hard you try.

It's not even about how clean people are either. In a neighborhood such as this there are hundreds of sidewalk trash receptacles. If a strong gust of wind comes by anything loose can fly out and be on it's way down the street. The person that left the trash in the receptacle did the right thing when they put it there, are they to be blamed that circumstances outside their control?

Here's the thing though, EVERY city is like this. Whenever you have a high concentration of humans in one place there will be trash. The only city I've ever been to that had a good handle on it was Singapore, but I still saw refuse everywhere and in order to get to the level of cleanliness they do have they take insane authoritarian measures to ensure compliance.

I think we can deal with a little trash in exchange for not living in a dictatorship.



Not a bad idea about using MLK Day for service projects, and this would go a long way to improving an area.

But the whole "Broken Windows" theory about reducing crime is junk science. The only thing that theorem proves is that if you gentrify an area poor folks are pushed out.



As always this is an overly simplistic view of the situation. Yeah, I could do that, but that wouldn't do much to end things. But please by all means be the first to pick up the Wendy's bag full of junkie dookie.

Stop misusing this thread.

Inordinate amounts of litter is an Atlanta thing in 2018.

Drive down Ponce right now from Krispy Kreme to Blvd. Only Atlanta residents think several large visible pieces of trash in every parking lot, in every grassy area is normal.

Manhattan in 2018 is so clean there aren't 5 pieces of discarded litter on the island. You could eat off the sidewalks.

Every intown gas station has litter strewn all over the parking lot. It's an Atlanta condition, some other cities here and there yes, but Atlanta is blanketed because no one is overseeing conditions.

You live in Buckhead and that is not what intown looks like as far as litter.

To contest my saying pickup a big piece or plastic bag flying through the air, is the red flag.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by architect77

Manhattan in 2018 is so clean there aren't 5 pieces of discarded litter on the island. You could eat off the sidewalks.

I was up there in June and large sections of Midtown (particularly in the 40s just east of Times Square) were disgusting.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Gulch

I was up there in June and large sections of Midtown (particularly in the 40s just east of Times Square) were disgusting.

Yeah. I've been there in 2018. Manhattan is pretty trashy. Maybe not down by Wall St., but much of the rest. And it smells BAD with all the trash out on the sidewalk.

That doesn't invalidate his point. Atlanta has lots of litter for a city that doesn't have 30,000 people per square mile.

[AnsleyPark]

Back in the day when I lived in Midtown, whenever we walked the pups, we always took a plastic grocery bag with us to use in picking up trash. If everyone were to do this, a lot of trash would be picked up.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by Gulch

I was up there in June and large sections of Midtown (particularly in the 40s just east of Times Square) were disgusting.

Originally Posted by bu2

Yeah. I've been there in 2018. Manhattan is pretty trashy. Maybe not down by Wall St., but much of the rest. And it smells BAD with all the trash out on the sidewalk.

Yeah, I'm not sure what alternate reality Manhattan they were in. I'm guessing they're the kind of person that goes to NYC and only stays in Times Square...which I'm guessing it pretty clean. I haven't actually been in Times Square since the 80s so i wouldn't know.

Originally Posted by bu2

That doesn't invalidate his point. Atlanta has lots of litter for a city that doesn't have 30,000 people per square mile.

I know this is city-data and residential population density is the only thing that matters, but you are wrong in you assessment. During the day, Downtown and Midtown has an average population of about 300,000 to 400,000 crammed in to about 7 square miles. Just because those people don't live there doesn't mean they don't make a mess.