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Old 05-06-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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Seems to me this may be one of the most realistic transit proposals out there. It's affordable and can be implemented relatively quickly, and it addresses greatly needed east-west connectivity.

As I understand it, the mayors of Smyrna, Brookhaven, Chamblee, Doraville, Dunwoody, Sandy Springs and Tucker have all signed on in favor of it.

Now Fulton has added top end BRT to its transportation referendum next year.

I say bring it on.


Fulton adds rapid buses on I-285 to transit plan, vote in 2020 likely
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Seems to me this may be one of the most realistic transit proposals out there. It's affordable and can be implemented relatively quickly, and it addresses greatly needed east-west connectivity.

As I understand it, the mayors of Smyrna, Brookhaven, Chamblee, Doraville, Dunwoody, Sandy Springs and Tucker have all signed on in favor of it.

Now Fulton has added top end BRT to its transportation referendum next year.

I say bring it on.


Fulton adds rapid buses on I-285 to transit plan, vote in 2020 likely
Just because it's cheap does not mean it's always the right choice. BRT, if done correctly, is a great transit option. It's when BRT creep starts chipping away at what makes BRT a great option; dedicated lanes, stations, off board fare collection, signal priority, etc.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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The BRT Creep is real. No way they give up a car lane on 285. Doubt they even create proper stations for it in the median of the highway.

Most likely case is regular buses running in the HOT lanes and having to get off the highway for their stops.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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Could they possibly make an express service where it’s not getting off at every exit? I don’t know if it could live up to the name of Bus Rapid Transit otherwise.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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The BRT Creep is real. No way they give up a car lane on 285. Doubt they even create proper stations for it in the median of the highway.

Most likely case is regular buses running in the HOT lanes and having to get off the highway for their stops.
The plan is to use the Top-End managed lanes, but without in-line stations along the managed lane system it will be not help.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Point to point express commuter bus, direct shuttle between 2 far apart nodes (with park&ride), via HOT lanes = cool

BRT line running in managed lanes with in-line stations that don't require exiting the lane system (see LA Metro Silver Line busway) = cool

"BRT" where the bus has to exit the freeway to make each stop = total failure pointless crap

That sums up my opinion
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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From what I've heard nobody is interested in it unless it is true BRT.

If you only took some buses and stuck them in regular 285 traffic that would obviously be ridiculous.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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From what I've heard nobody is interested in it unless it is true BRT.

If you only took some buses and stuck them in regular 285 traffic that would obviously be ridiculous.
As soon as cost budgets begin to increase, the BRT amenities will be the first thing cut.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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As soon as cost budgets begin to increase, the BRT amenities will be the first thing cut.
Well, you've seen a lot more BRT projects than I have.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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The plan is to use the Top-End managed lanes, but without in-line stations along the managed lane system it will be not help.
They'd be doing both on the 400 managed lanes.

Would like to actually see the proposed plans for the 285 managed lanes. Not a fan of all this secrecy that GADOT has acted on.
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