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Old 04-16-2008, 11:00 PM
 
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:10 AM
 
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This would not likely have happened just ten years ago.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:33 AM
 
Location: ATL by way of Los Angeles
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It probably wouldn't have happened five years ago either.

What is so strange about a lot of so-called "gang" activity in Metro Atlanta is that you hear more stories about this type of stuff in the 'burbs these days than you do in the city. Crime is everywhere of course, but I tend to see more "gang-related" stories OTP than ITP.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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It probably wouldn't have happened five years ago either.

What is so strange about a lot of so-called "gang" activity in Metro Atlanta is that you hear more stories about this type of stuff in the 'burbs these days than you do in the city. Crime is everywhere of course, but I tend to see more "gang-related" stories OTP than ITP.
As my bro-in-law, a detective with Dekalb, says "Just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening." It's really in the best interests of City of Atlanta to present an image of "cleaning up" and "lowering crime" and they have the money/connections to keep more things quiet than suburban areas. He worked the Olympics as well, and told me that there was so much violent crime that occurred that never saw an ounce of coverage...all in the name of duping the outside world into thinking we actually have a well run and safe city.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:40 AM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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As my bro-in-law, a detective with Dekalb, says "Just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening." It's really in the best interests of City of Atlanta to present an image of "cleaning up" and "lowering crime" and they have the money/connections to keep more things quiet than suburban areas. He worked the Olympics as well, and told me that there was so much violent crime that occurred that never saw an ounce of coverage...all in the name of duping the outside world into thinking we actually have a well run and safe city.
True. Remember, it was only a few years ago that the Feds did some research and found that the City of Atlanta police department had failed to file on the order of 20,000 crimes in the database that is used to figure crime stats nationally. Made some big headlines at the time. Pennington (chief) and the Mayor said it was a result of "clerical errors".

Here is a blurb from City of Atlanta online:

An audit of criminal incidents for 2002 found that serious crime in Atlanta is probably higher than has been reported to the FBI. This is the result of a broken records management system and a lack of accountability going back years before Chief Pennington. Under-reporting crime severely handicaps development of effective crime strategies and tactics. Without accurate crime figures, there can be no reliable benchmark against which to measure crime reduction progress and exact officer accountability. In 2002:

The APD underreported Part I (major) crimes by 3.2% (a little over 1,500 crimes).
Over 20,000 police reports that were taken are "missing"; they cannot be located in the Department’s records system.

Fifteen other law enforcement agencies have jurisdiction in Atlanta and can take crime reports but do not share crime information with the APD.

Atlanta has one of the lowest ratios of officers per square mile of all large cities in the country. Officers feel overwhelmed by high levels of crime and the number of calls for service - over half surveyed do not believe that they can answer every call, regardless of the seriousness of the call. And nearly a third of Atlanta residents agree.


Source link: City of Atlanta Online (http://www.atlantaga.gov/media/nr_futureofapd_022004.aspx - broken link)

Atlanta isn't the only PD though that covers up reports. Here in Cobb I've noticed a few instances on my own where crimes were not properly reported and there were no records of them when you inquire about them. I'd say most likely, just about every single PD in the metro area has done this on some level. Some more than others, but most probably have in order to "pad" the perception of there being less crime in their areas than there really is.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:43 AM
 
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This is yet another consequence resulting from the "Californiazation" of Georgia. You always heard about stuff like this in L.A., but not Atlanta until recently
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:53 AM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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This is yet another consequence resulting from the "Californiazation" of Georgia. You always heard about stuff like this in L.A., but not Atlanta until recently
California has nothing to do with this. These problems have been here for years. The suburban crime problem has increased because a few years ago Atlanta started tearing down the housing projects in order to build "mixed income" residential projects. Those living in some of them were given vouchers or other options that could be used to move into homes in the suburbs. Some were low income but hard working people. Others were basically crack heads with troubled kids. Either way, via these options they left the city and trickled into various suburban areas. Then there was Katrina which left a certain small but measureable mark when some of the more troubled groups had assistance to relocate into the area - mostly suburban areas. Atlanta, Houston, Baton Rouge - all reported increased crime stats immedately following and lingering after this event.

This is also a result of many years worth of Atlanta Mayors who place personal friends into the position of police chief for the city. Underqualified and/or corrupt people are running the show and have been for some time, resulting in inaccurate or blatantly false reporting as well as a lack or morale according to varied past news articles. Until leadership changes, this too, will not change.

We can blame California for Botox, Spandex, and TMZ - but not our crime problems and the reporting of it.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:01 AM
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Atlanta has one of the lowest ratios of officers per square mile of all large cities in the country. Officers feel overwhelmed by high levels of crime and the number of calls for service - over half surveyed do not believe that they can answer every call, regardless of the seriousness of the call. And nearly a third of Atlanta residents agree.

And you wonder why crime is so high. The ratio of officers to people in the entire metro area is something like 1 to 1000. The police force in Atlanta is stretched way too thin.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:33 AM
 
Location: ATL by way of Los Angeles
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As my bro-in-law, a detective with Dekalb, says "Just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening." It's really in the best interests of City of Atlanta to present an image of "cleaning up" and "lowering crime" and they have the money/connections to keep more things quiet than suburban areas. He worked the Olympics as well, and told me that there was so much violent crime that occurred that never saw an ounce of coverage...all in the name of duping the outside world into thinking we actually have a well run and safe city.
I'm not saying that crime doesn't happen. We all know that the crime rate in and around Atlanta is high. What I was speaking about was specific "gang-related" activity. A lot of thefts and murders don't tend to be "gang-related" in Georgia from my observation as compared to back home in Los Angeles.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:38 AM
 
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Every morning I go online to read the news... and I'd say 5/7 days, there is a murder in Atlanta. I guess most are happening in DeKalb... like this morning Shooting kills man, injures two in DeKalb | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2008/04/17/shooting_0418.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab - broken link)


I suspect, as I've said before, Atlanta's murder rate will return to the normal, disgusting Memphis/St.Louis-esque rate.


This is a rather violent city... many don't like to admit that.
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