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Old 04-13-2022, 09:42 AM
 
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Why?
Is that a serious question? Thank goodness that nonsense wouldn't fly in the burbs.
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Old 04-13-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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Because markets don't operate linearly. By the time the market corrects, people may already be homeless. Roswell is also intervening more rather than allowing developers to decide the best fit for the land they are building upon when they are building multi-family housing. This issue is bigger than Roswell or Alpharetta. Like I said before, communities can remain exclusive but they need shoulder more the burden rather shifting the affordable housing solutions onto other communities.
That's how zoning works in all cities.
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Old 04-13-2022, 09:48 AM
 
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That's how zoning works in all cities.
Isn't that more and not less government interference by adding more requirements for multi-family housing?
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Old 04-13-2022, 09:52 AM
 
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Isn't that more and not less government interference by adding more requirements for multi-family housing?
You have to have some rules in place. I'm sure you, or anyone else, wouldn't want a massage parlor going up next to an elementary school, your house etc. If there was zero government, it would be mass chaos. Nobody is calling for no government.
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Old 04-13-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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The suburbs don't have to shoulder the burden of caring for the homeless or people with lower incomes. Those communities can remain exclusive but they need to share the cost burden for fueling the housing crisis our state and nation is facing. That could be done by taxing single family homes at higher county property taxes and subsidizing housing in other parts of the county not hostile to multi-family housing.
Explain to me how this is 'fueling the housing crisis'? They aren't leveling apartment complexes and running people out. They are planning for the future and to make their area better and more engaging.

Are you up in arms about the gentrification that is happening ITP? I can't imagine that new construction is going to be more affordable to people who live close to downtown Atlanta. Isn't that more likely to cause homelessness than a city calling to add multi-use developments in the future?
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Old 04-13-2022, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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unless paired with non-residential uses
Actually you could almost read this as a progressive/pro- urbanist policy. As in, pro- mixed use developments with base retail and such, which not that long ago was not a thing in the suburbs.
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Old 04-13-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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Actually you could almost read this as a progressive/pro- urbanist policy. As in, pro- mixed use developments with base retail and such, which not that long ago was not a thing in the suburbs.
Your comments raise an excellent point, which is that Roswell city government doesn’t appear to be banning the outright construction of anymore apartments complexes. The City of Roswell just appears to want any new apartment complexes built as mixed-use developments (with retail and restaurants at the base of mixed-use complexes below apartments) along the lines of what is going on in neighboring Alpharetta and other metro Atlanta cities.

Besides, it’s not like there is a shortage of apartment complexes in a city in Roswell which already has somewhere in the neighborhood of like about nearly three-dozen apartment complexes.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:37 PM
 
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Actually you could almost read this as a progressive/pro- urbanist policy. As in, pro- mixed use developments with base retail and such, which not that long ago was not a thing in the suburbs.
That's how I see it. I think it is smart.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:38 PM
 
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Besides, it’s not like there is a shortage of apartment complexes in a city in Roswell which already has somewhere in the neighborhood of like about nearly three-dozen apartment complexes.

Exactly. Some might say that Roswell already has an oversupply of apartments - particularly in East Roswell.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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But a genuine question, why do we need to insert MORE gov't intervention into an intended free market system? If housing becomes too exclusive for Roswell, then ultimately people won't move there in the long term, and they'll find other places to live that offer a better value. Roswell would ultimately lose if they set their prices too high, and the market would dictate that.

Uhh...the anti-apartment zoning is itself government intervention...the free market solution would be to let property owners build what they want on their, you know, property.
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